Jeez Sludgey, Pantera and Slayer are just plain awful. What do you see in either band? I had the misfortune of seeing Pantera at Donington Monsters of Rock in 1994. Phil Anselmo cannot just cannot sing, he grunts, and shouts, no finesse in his vocal abilities at all, and the band play a tuneless racket at 1000mph. Totally awfuk!! AIC to my ears anyway, were the only half decent band to come out of the Grunge movement