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    50 Points for Safety

    Where do people think we will pick up the 14 points estimated as required to ensure safety, from our remaining games?

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    We won't need 50 points to stay up, 45 would probably be enough the way the bottom 3 are playing

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    Luton, Stoke and Oxford at home plus another at home Wednesday maybe? A few heroic draws would help

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    Bookies have us finishing one place off relegation. Think it's going to be squeaky bum time till the end of the season.

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    The highest placed team we’ve beaten in the current table is Watford who are ninth. I think we’ll beat one of the current top eight before the end of the season, but, by the same token, I can’t see us beating all of Luton, Stoke and Oxford at home. I think we’ll. struggle to reach fifty points, but while it looked like you may need that many to survive a month ago, only Plymouth of the bottom three have won since then, so I think a point a game for us from here will probably be enough.

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    Using Plymouth, currently in the last relegation position, as an example

    We are currently 6 points ahead of them with a much better goal difference so, unless they pull that back, it effectively means they will have to get 7 more points than us by the end of the season.

    To put that in perspective, if we were to draw every one our remaining games, Plymouth would have to get 19 points to go above us.

    It could happen, but would be a big ask of a team to suddenly pick up an average of 1.5 points a game, when over the season they havent even managed an averarge of 1 point per game.

    I am not saying 12 more points will be enough, less might be required, but I feel it is looking a likely safe target to avoid relegation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Where do people think we will pick up the 14 points estimated as required to ensure safety, from our remaining games?
    Apologies for stating the bleedin' obvious but having more points than three other teams is the yardstick rather than a points total based on historical statistics.

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    IMO we'll stay up with nowhere near 50 points.
    Three teams below us would have to finish the season in near-promotion form to send us down, and that won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Where do people think we will pick up the 14 points estimated as required to ensure safety, from our remaining games?
    Goals from Robinson, Salech and Davies will get us more than enough points, with assists from Ramsey, Alves, Mannsverk and Robinson, we have a much better team to see out the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Apologies for stating the bleedin' obvious but having more points than three other teams is the yardstick rather than a points total based on historical statistics.
    Nonsense. We all know football is all about stats.

    Did you know that we are the joint best team in the league with 100% win record based on the last one game?

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    I know we'll need more than 50 points to make the play-offs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Goals from Robinson, Salech and Davies will get us more than enough points, with assists from Ramsey, Alves, Mannsverk and Robinson, we have a much better team to see out the season.


    Isn't it amazing what a single win can do for a team.
    If we'd lost on Tuesday, the MB would be in meltdown and doubts start creeping into everything and everyone.
    Since the crazy Leeds game, we have looked a pretty decent side given our position in the league but the points gained haven't reflected this.

    Still some twists to come no doubt but we have more than enough talent to survive the drop.
    From now on, it's about belief in yourself and your teammates mixed with a bit of hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post


    Isn't it amazing what a single win can do for a team.
    If we'd lost on Tuesday, the MB would be in meltdown and doubts start creeping into everything and everyone.
    Since the crazy Leeds game, we have looked a pretty decent side given our position in the league but the points gained haven't reflected this.

    Still some twists to come no doubt but we have more than enough talent to survive the drop.
    From now on, it's about belief in yourself and your teammates mixed with a bit of hard work.
    Agreed, and with the two latest acquisitions plus players returning from injury, the squad looks stronger than it has for a very long time. The only thing that is stopping us from playing consistently well is the fear factor.

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    The bottom 3 are all on less than a point a game. Low 40s might be enough to stay up at this rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Apologies for stating the bleedin' obvious but having more points than three other teams is the yardstick rather than a points total based on historical statistics.
    You're right. As long as we achieve no worse than 3 of the following we'll stay up:

    7 points less than Luton
    6 points less than Derby
    5 points less than Plymouth
    2 points less than Hull
    Same points as Stoke.

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    If we win every game, we can get 72 points so I'm booking my Wembley accommodation tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Where do people think we will pick up the 14 points estimated as required to ensure safety, from our remaining games?
    More to the point, does anyone think Plymouth can win 20 points from their last 12 games?

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    Re: 50 Points for Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    More to the point, does anyone think Plymouth can win 20 points from their last 12 games?
    Doubt it but they are in a bit of form, and have only lost one in the last six and have a good run of winnable games coming up.

    Luton, Derby, and one of Hull, Stoke, Oxford and Plymouth are going down.

    Horvath, Fish, Mannsverk, Bagan, Salech, Alves, Ashford, Ramsey, Davies added to what we've had will improve us in the run in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Doubt it but they are in a bit of form, and have only lost one in the last six and have a good run of winnable games coming up.

    Luton, Derby, and one of Hull, Stoke, Oxford and Plymouth are going down.

    Horvath, Fish, Mannsverk, Bagan, Salech, Alves, Ashford, Ramsey, Davies added to what we've had will improve us in the run in.
    Oxford are 8 points clear of relegation and 2 ahead of us. They'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Doubt it but they are in a bit of form, and have only lost one in the last six and have a good run of winnable games coming up
    It's natural when teams at the bottom suddenly have a few good results that some will think they'll keep that going. The reason they're down the bottom is that they haven't been able to.

    In any case, if Plymouth did go on a great run and survived, good luck to them, they'll have earned it. We're in charge of our own destiny, they're in charge of theirs

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    It wouldn't be the Cardiff city way if one or more of the bottom 3 didn't suddenly pick up a few wins in a short period. Likes of Pompey and Oxford have previously managed it.

    It's going to the last couple of matches I think. I'm just hoping we can get an away win or two somewhere improbable as it seems unlikely we will be able to do it all against our rivals.

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    Re: 50 Points for Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It's natural when teams at the bottom suddenly have a few good results that some will think they'll keep that going. The reason they're down the bottom is that they haven't been able to.

    In any case, if Plymouth did go on a great run and survived, good luck to them, they'll have earned it. We're in charge of our own destiny, they're in charge of theirs
    That's true, I'm just thinking the new manager and players seem to have improved them, but you are right how long can they keep it up?

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    Re: 50 Points for Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Oxford are 8 points clear of relegation and 2 ahead of us. They'll be fine.
    Three points from the last seven games, lost the last two games 2-0 to Portsmouth and WBA?

    I'm not so sure, they are getting dragged in, and maybe their new manager bounce has worn off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Three points from the last seven games, lost the last two games 2-0 to Portsmouth and WBA?

    I'm not so sure, they are getting dragged in, and maybe their new manager bounce has worn off?
    With the goal difference, Plymouth will need to pick up at least 9 points to reel them in

    If Oxford average just 0.5 points per game for the rest of the season, Plymouth would need 15 points, half of what they have after 34 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Three points from the last seven games, lost the last two games 2-0 to Portsmouth and WBA?

    I'm not so sure, they are getting dragged in, and maybe their new manager bounce has worn off?
    It's 3 from 6, and I think it'll be 3 from 3.

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