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Thread: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

  1. #26

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    I probably have a bit more of an indication with Rubin because of the years Ive seen him. Since he was 12, Ive seen his development, Ive been a part of his development, said Bellamy.

    Hes a player I would have expected more [from] but we all develop at different stages, different moments. My development really came probably when I was 22, so hes a similar age, that area where he can push on.

    A lot of the habits I havent quite seen I feel hes trying to bring to his game. If he keeps on that track I see different areas for Rubin as well.

    His engine, his volume of running is more than his high intensity, which is a different part of the game. So with Rubin, I dont just see him in the front lines, I see him being able to play deeper as well. Hes going to need a bit of help with that.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...rent%20moments.

    What are the lottery numbers Craig?

  2. #27

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    I probably have a bit more of an indication with Rubin because of the years Ive seen him. Since he was 12, Ive seen his development, Ive been a part of his development, said Bellamy.

    Hes a player I would have expected more [from] but we all develop at different stages, different moments. My development really came probably when I was 22, so hes a similar age, that area where he can push on.

    A lot of the habits I havent quite seen I feel hes trying to bring to his game. If he keeps on that track I see different areas for Rubin as well.

    His engine, his volume of running is more than his high intensity, which is a different part of the game. So with Rubin, I dont just see him in the front lines, I see him being able to play deeper as well. Hes going to need a bit of help with that.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...rent%20moments.

    What are the lottery numbers Craig?
    People will deny it now they've seen him with wales but there were definitely posters here who didn't fancy bellamy as our manager. Concerns of being a hot head etc......

    It's frightening what he could have done with likes of colwill, bagan, davies etc......

  3. #28

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Colwill had a poor spell in the lead up to Christmas, but I think he’s played well lately and am wondering what people are thinking of as of now when they talk about the weaknesses in his game?
    A lack of end product in terms of goals and assists at Championship level.

    His last Championship goal was scored against Plymouth on 19/10/24 (his only league goal this year).

    His last Championship assist came in the 2-2 draw at Coventry on 20/11/24.

  4. #29

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    People will deny it now they've seen him with wales but there were definitely posters here who didn't fancy bellamy as our manager. Concerns of being a hot head etc......

    It's frightening what he could have done with likes of colwill, bagan, davies etc......
    I don't think Bellamy would be suited to club management, at least not yet. He almost said as much himself while he was at Burnley working under Kompany.

    Also, he doesn't do anything with Colwill at international level. He doesn't play him.

  5. #30

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Poor old Rubin, it seems he's always playing in the wrong position / wrong team / wrong division / wrong country / with the wrong players / under the wrong manager (delete as applicable).

    I speak as someone who generally enjoys watching Colwill play, but some of the excuses that are made for him are frankly ridiculous.
    It's not just rubin though. I don't think our academy is that bad but the outcomes have been awful. Very few players have kicked on and made the transition. In that context rubin has done remarkably well he is still a professional footballer as most of our high hopes from the academy aren't by the age of 22.

    I know all clubs struggle but we have been particularly bad over the last decade if not more.

    If we can just about stay up even someone like yourself must surely give riza a tiny bit of credit for making it seem more likely our academy products may come through, be given a chance and develop? Whether he should stay or not is up for debate but he deserves that acknowledgement for me.

  6. #31

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    A lack of end product in terms of goals and assists at Championship level.

    His last Championship goal was scored against Plymouth on 19/10/24 (his only league goal this year).

    His last Championship assist came in the 2-2 draw at Coventry on 20/11/24.
    To be fair, he’s also got four in five Cup games this season.

  7. #32

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    A lack of end product in terms of goals and assists at Championship level.

    His last Championship goal was scored against Plymouth on 19/10/24 (his only league goal this year).

    His last Championship assist came in the 2-2 draw at Coventry on 20/11/24.
    And i don't think he's a 10, i never did, yet people were screaming on here for him to play that position when it was clear that he isn't quick enough for that role. He's got a stride like a giraffe, not blessed with pace, but legs that can open up, which means that exploiting space (something he has always been good at) is his type of game, and that's always going to be from a deeper position, becaue that's where the space is, it doesn't have to be worked like in the final third.This may sound odd, but last night wasn't a championship game where there's less space, players cancel each other rather that allow each other to play, there's no space in midfield sometimes in a championship game, and things only really open up as a reaction to a goal or how long is left to play in a game. I think that he would benefit from a deeper position, it's down to him though, how disciplined is he to hold his position, release at the right time etc. He certainly has the ability, does he have the discipline?

  8. #33

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    If we can stay up a colwill and colwill midfield next year could be interesting.

    If we go down it could be also actually l!

  9. #34

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    To be fair, he’s also got four in five Cup games this season.
    He has bob, but again, they're games where space is allowed and teams are just out for the win, nobody is keeping it tight. I think that he should play a deeper role, if he can break lines with 15 yards of movement with the ball then it'll be something that we haven't had at the club since god knows when...

  10. #35

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    If we can stay up a colwill and colwill midfield next year could be interesting.

    If we go down it could be also actually l!
    As long as he doesn't dye his hair again, because that was ****ing scary.

  11. #36

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    He has bob, but again, they're games where space is allowed and teams are just out for the win, nobody is keeping it tight. I think that he should play a deeper role, if he can break lines with 15 yards of movement with the ball then it'll be something that we haven't had at the club since god knows when...
    Jordon Mutch I’d say.

  12. #37

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Jordon Mutch I’d say.
    That's a good shout. He wasn't particularly quick from memory but had a decent brain on him. What happened to him?

  13. #38

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    That's a good shout. He wasn't particularly quick from memory but had a decent brain on him. What happened to him?
    Based on his social media posts he's applying for a place in the trump cabinet.

  14. #39

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    To be fair, hes also got four in five Cup games this season.
    He has, in open matches where both teams are playing a mixture of first team, reserves and under-21 players.

    Colwill hasn't done enough in the games that matter most this season - the bread-and-butter Championship matches where the opposition is at full strength. I don't think even his biggest fans could argue with that (although I've no doubt they'd try...).

  15. #40

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    Based on his social media posts he's applying for a place in the trump cabinet.
    Really? He doesn't post on here, does he?

  16. #41

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    I've been thinking for a while that he could thrive in a different league with a different style/pace of game. Maybe Spain or Italy.
    Totally agree, I could see him doing really well out in Italy

  17. #42

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Some great replies . Really interesting how different fans see his game .
    Has there been any other players recently for city that divide opinion as much ?
    Personally even without an end product he is a joy to watch even though he can be so frustrating .

  18. #43

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerkyra Blue View Post
    Some great replies . Really interesting how different fans see his game .
    Has there been any other players recently for city that divide opinion as much ?
    Personally even without an end product he is a joy to watch even though he can be so frustrating .
    Maybe Peter Whittingham and McPhail, although the debate about Colwill is different in my opinion, the latter two were accused of being lazy, luxury players etc by some fans if memory serves. It's always players with natural ability.

  19. #44

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerkyra Blue View Post
    Has there been any other players recently for city that divide opinion as much ?
    I dont think so. But one thing I can guarantee is we havent had a player during my many years of following the club who has so much crazy stuff written about him by City supporters.

    When compared to what Colwill has actually produced so far, some of the things said about him are truly bonkers.

  20. #45

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Maybe Peter Whittingham and McPhail, although the debate about Colwill is different in my opinion, the latter two were accused of being lazy, luxury players etc by some fans if memory serves. It's always players with natural ability.
    Lazy luxury players.? ? Whitts , Mcphail stats are completely off the scale in goals and assists.

    Anybody saying Whitts is a luxury player with his stats is a lunatic.😂

  21. #46

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    And here we are. Most will agree he's had a good game against a top side there are great reviews about him and still our own fans in a truly awful season want to highlight the negativity.

  22. #47

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    And here we are. Most will agree he's had a good game against a top side there are great reviews about him and still our own fans in a truly awful season want to highlight the negativity.
    What a lazy and dismissive response to what has been a really good thread, well mannered, people just giving their thoughts and opinions.

  23. #48

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Lazy luxury players.? ? Whitts , Mcphail stats are completely off the scale in goals and assists.

    Anybody saying Whitts is a luxury player with his stats is a lunatic.��
    Yes, Whittingham and Mc phail (especially Mc Phail) got heaps of criticism on here.

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    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Premier League players show more consistency. I think he could get there, but he needs to start doing it week in and week out. I think he has a good chance. He's got the natural ability. He needs to develop the other 50% of work rate and consistency.

    I had a jack ex colleague text yesterday watching on TV and he said that Colwill is brilliant.

  25. #50

    Re: Would Rubin Colwill be more suited to a Premiere team ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    Based on his social media posts he's applying for a place in the trump cabinet.
    Don’t you mean Trumpski?

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