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Swansea fans I know also don't get the Colwill negativity in our support.
Maybe we just as a fan base love the Gareth Stoker types?
Just sometimes that a different club with different coaches and systems can help a player push on, I think if he stays here he'll always be 1 great game, several mediocre ones. Would be gutted if he left though, he's a player that I'm still excited to watchOriginally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Maybe we just as a fan base love the end product.
I love Colwill, I am a fully paid up member of his fan club but he doesn't do enough. If, as it appeared last night, he can play deeper and not run out of grass etc with the game ahead of him, he might do better.
Rubin has scored 7 goals in 127 Championship appearances. Aden Flint scored 10 in 86 games for us.
Perhaps more importantly, five of those goals came in his first full season (2021/22). His league goals since then:
2022/23 - 0
2023/24 - 1
2924/25 - 1
I wonder how fans of other clubs (and especially the Jacks) would react if a player who was regarded as their most talented youngster produced stats like those?
More impressive he'll have a 900 year career
I think he needs to move back, he's got so much talent but I wonder if he's got enough between the ears.
Yes they fear him and Tanner, I suppose they would after that goal.
Just a hunch, I reckon they might fear the bloke who's scored 3 goals against them this season
I don't think so.
He's a decent mid Championship midfielder and no more, which lets be honest is great. Its where we want to be at the minimum.
Would love him to kick on and be the next Ramsey but he's miles off that level.
In terms of players that have come through the Cardiff system in the last 20 years he's in the top 5 but that says more about us than him.
Two goals in 900 years. The sort of record Siopis could only dream about.More impressive he'll have a 900 year career
Spot on.
They do not have to be a goal scorer to help win a game.Doug Livermoe.Alan Campell did not score alot of goals but were top class.
He didnt even register a shot Friday. Changing from the let me try a shot from 40 yards because I feel like that he used to be.
Rubin is getting better. He is maturing particularly with his decision making.
The strange thing is that it was those two who got the goals in front of City's biggest ever home league crowd of the last sixty odd years.
But they had the prolific John Buchanan to score the midfield goals for them.
We have rarely had a pair of classier midfielders than Campbell and Livermore, though.
We really haven't had many goals from our midfielders (or defenders) this season.
Neither were exactly top class while they were with us. They were both heading towards the end of their careers. Very good players who served the club well, but let's not get carried away.
During the Third Division promotion campaign of 1975/76, Livermore did score three league goals - more than Colwill has managed in the last three seasons - and Campbell scored one league goal - the same as Colwill has managed this season.
The thing is, as AA has already mentioned, that midfield also contained John Buchanan (four goals) and winger Willie Anderson (six goals), while Phil Dwyer also scored eight goals while playing either in midfield or at right back. And, most importantly, the team contained two prolific strikers in Tony Evans (21 goals) and Adrian Alston (14 goals).
The role of midfielders like Livermore and Campbell in that City side way back then (75/76, my first-ever full season supporting City) was quite different, with a 4-4-2 formation being employed almost exclusively. It's obviously a different game altogether these days.
One thing I know for certain - if you'd told us at the end of the 2021/22 that Rubin Colwill would only score two league goals in the next three seasons, nobody would have believed you. Of course, he can improve on that record during the next twelve games, but as things stand his goals return has been very disappointing for an attacking midfielder with his level of natural ability.
Appreciating that your opinion of Colwill is possibly more negative than positive, where would you rank him in our squad in terms of saleable value? In my opinion hes first.
I'd rate him third behind Ashford, who's only 20 and I believe has more potential due to the significant levels of football intelligence he shows, and Robertson, who is a year younger than Colwill and I reckon is potentially more valuable in the long run.
Although it's by no means out of the question, I'd be surprised if anyone would be willing to pay a decent fee for Colwill until such a time as he's nailed down a permanent starting position in the side and has shown he can deliver the goods on a regular basis. At the moment he's far more about raw natural ability than end product, and managers seem to find it difficult to accommodate such players. The six managers he's had at Cardiff certainly have and his international managers haven't seemed overly keen either. Nobody has seemed sure what to do with him.
Theyre also my top 3.. age isnt a big factor for me though but Ashford would be 3rd.
All 3 Id rate more valuable than McGuinness though
I was never a big fan of Mcguiness, i always thought that he could be slow and cumbersome, although he did start performing a lot better and by the end of his stay he was looking more assured. I don't know what has happened to him at Luton though, very odd. Didn't we get 5 million for him? I'm hoping Fish is going to come on a bit now, he's looked decent enough to me, quick to react and all that.
Most reports at the time of the transfer were saying up to 10 million - but also most said that included add ons that may or may not be triggered. I would guess that Luton getting promoted was one of the add ons in that figure. Doesn't seem likely!
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Hope there’s not a deduction for relegation
Hereford. What a game. What an atmosphere.
Of course they fear him too
I'd agree, but does Colwill have a more natural ability?
Either way, in football it's not your only ability; combined with physical strength, stamina, and work rate, it's what you do with all of them consistently.
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