How do Labour voters feel about the party at the moment?

[JamesWales]

That's happened, things get slowly worse and worse as capitalism sets in. We are approaching the end game now.

What are you proposing instead of capitalism?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

As was pointed out earlier it could be they are getting all the bad stuff front loaded and out of the way

That being said not only have Labour made some idiotic decisions even that which had to be done has been delivered so badly

Blair and his mob were far more wise

[JamesWales]

As was pointed out earlier it could be they are getting all the bad stuff front loaded and out of the way

That being said not only have Labour made some idiotic decisions even that which had to be done has been delivered so badly

Blair and his mob were far more wise

I think there is some truth in this, but I think the problem may be that any good will towards them, any "new manager bounce" etc was nipped in the bud and as such they have hi to confidence and growth.

[the other bob wilson]

Labour’s attempts to steal the title of the nasty party from the Tories no longer come as a surprise. Apparently, NHS waiting lists are coming down, so that’s something I’d hope for and expect from a Labour Government, but I can’t think of anything else they’ve done I feel similarly about - this new Government aren’t as funny and corrupt as the last one , but they’re just as heartless and pro the rich as them.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Labour’s attempts to steal the title of the nasty party from the Tories no longer come as a surprise. Apparently, NHS waiting lists are coming down, so that’s something I’d hope for and expect from a Labour Government, but I can’t think of anything else they’ve done I feel similarly about - this new Government aren’t as funny and corrupt as the last one , but they’re just as heartless and pro the rich as them.

I would like labour , liberals , greens , plaid etc to merge

A more united opposition and a divided and split right wing will keep them out

A few compromises will have to be made but there you go

Starmer arguing with the Liberal, snp , Plaid and green leaders is absolutely ridiculous when the common enemy is the conservatives

[Dorcus]

Labour’s attempts to steal the title of the nasty party from the Tories no longer come as a surprise. Apparently, NHS waiting lists are coming down, so that’s something I’d hope for and expect from a Labour Government, but I can’t think of anything else they’ve done I feel similarly about - this new Government aren’t as funny and corrupt as the last one , but they’re just as heartless and pro the rich as them.

Agreed, the rich have them all in their pocket, except Corbyn, and of course he was taken out of play by the blob

[JamesWales]

Agreed, the rich have them all in their pocket, except Corbyn, and of course he was taken out of play by the blob

Conspiracy theorist

[Hilts]

Yup. while we're all told to work harder if we want better, because hard work is good for us, but when we work hard and things don't get better, they actually get worse, then we blame ourselves for not working hard enough, it's the mantra passed down by the super rich and those who have their interests at heart. And we're taking it, and at the same time fighting amongst ourselves like two boxers out on their feet in the final round, it's depressing to see so many people with so much in common being ripped apart by the manipulation by those who only have their own greed and dominance at heart.

👍 Exactly.

[Dorcus]

Conspiracy theorist

No, realist

[Heathblue]

No, realist

Are you sure Ade ?

[Dorcus]

Are you sure Ade ?

Yes Fart!

[Heathblue]

Yes Fart!

Archive everything
We have it all
"Q"

[Dorcus]

Archive everything
We have it all
"Q"

Nothing is ever forgotten
"Z"

[Heathblue]

Nothing is ever forgotten
"Z"

Not even changed username.

[Dorcus]

Not even changed username.

Good lad! What was your previous one?

[JamesWales]

No, realist

"The blob" didn't take him out of play, certainly no more scrutiny than Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, Ed Miliband and the rest received.

[jon1959]

"The blob" didn't take him out of play, certainly no more scrutiny than Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, Ed Miliband and the rest received.

I don’t know what ‘the blob’ is, but if you think the ‘scrutiny’ Corbyn faced (it wasn’t scrutiny - it was orchestrated political assassination) was in the same league as the others you ‘whatabouted’ you are deluded or dishonest. It wasn't traditional left-right knockabout - it was the whole of the mainstream media, included the supposed liberal bits, other political parties, foreign governments and commentators, the Labour right and Labour machine, and any ex general trying to do a 1970s David Sterling impression.

[Dorcus]

I don’t know what ‘the blob’ is, but if you think the ‘scrutiny’ Corbyn faced (it wasn’t scrutiny - it was orchestrated political assassination) was in the same league as the others you ‘whatabouted’ you are deluded or dishonest. It wasn't traditional left-right knockabout - it was the whole of the mainstream media, included the supposed liberal bits, other political parties, foreign governments and commentators, the Labour right and Labour machine, and any ex general trying to do a 1970s David Sterling impression.

Our Right Wing friend would conveniently forget all this.

[North Cardiff Blue]

As was pointed out earlier it could be they are getting all the bad stuff front loaded and out of the way

That being said not only have Labour made some idiotic decisions even that which had to be done has been delivered so badly

Blair and his mob were far more wise

They are making a mess of the economy. There is no growth, so we have to keep increasing taxes. Reeves is acheiving the complete opposite of what she said she was trying to do. No wonder Halifax let her go. She'd have given the wrong change on the cash desk.

[Heathblue]

Good lad! What was your previous one?

Depends really on which version of this MB back to when it started, but only two, never felt the need to go incognito.

[JamesWales]

I don’t know what ‘the blob’ is, but if you think the ‘scrutiny’ Corbyn faced (it wasn’t scrutiny - it was orchestrated political assassination) was in the same league as the others you ‘whatabouted’ you are deluded or dishonest. It wasn't traditional left-right knockabout - it was the whole of the mainstream media, included the supposed liberal bits, other political parties, foreign governments and commentators, the Labour right and Labour machine, and any ex general trying to do a 1970s David Sterling impression.

Nonsense. It was no different to what they all face. Or at least anyone who goes against the status quo. The left just has an insane chip on its shoulder. Obviously his past comments will be investigated, twisted, explored. His economic policies gone through with a firm tooth comb etc. The guy could have been prime minister. That is scrutiny. You just call it an orchestrated political assassination. What do you call it if it's Farage then?

We probably agree on how the media try to twist and sensationalize things but for you to think it only applied to Corbyn (whereas I acknowledge it applies to all) is you being dishonest, or perhaps you just don't know about the other examples?

One of the greatest being the programme channel 4 put out called "UKIP: The first 100 days" which is still the most extraordinary biased intervention I have ever seen from a public broadcaster into an election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31505966

[stevo]

I don't feel I can comment on this thread as I didn't vote Labour. However, the only time I have ever voted Labour was when Corbyn was leader, Make of that what you will.

[Dorcus]

I don't feel I can comment on this thread as I didn't vote Labour. However, the only time I have ever voted Labour was when Corbyn was leader, Make of that what you will.

I make of it that you're sane and sensible and a breath of fresh air 👍

[the other bob wilson]

Nonsense. It was no different to what they all face. Or at least anyone who goes against the status quo. The left just has an insane chip on its shoulder. Obviously his past comments will be investigated, twisted, explored. His economic policies gone through with a firm tooth comb etc. The guy could have been prime minister. That is scrutiny. You just call it an orchestrated political assassination. What do you call it if it's Farage then?

We probably agree on how the media try to twist and sensationalize things but for you to think it only applied to Corbyn (whereas I acknowledge it applies to all) is you being dishonest, or perhaps you just don't know about the other examples?

One of the greatest being the programme channel 4 put out called "UKIP: The first 100 days" which is still the most extraordinary biased intervention I have ever seen from a public broadcaster into an election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31505966

I take it this post is a joke.

[Wales-Bales]

What are you proposing instead of capitalism?

Communism?