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Thread: Are you bothered?

  1. #26

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    Apathy abounds after all these years….20 years ago it would have affected me for days on end, like the Blackpool playoff which lasted weeks last night I’d moved on with relegation by 10.30

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Apathy abounds after all these years….20 years ago it would have affected me for days on end, like the Blackpool playoff which lasted weeks last night I’d moved on with relegation by 10.30
    I think the red nonsense weakened the emotional bond many have with the club and made apathy in situations such as now a bit more likely.

    The fact watching CCFC at home has been so dull for at least 3-4 seasons only adds to it.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Apathy abounds after all these years….20 years ago it would have affected me for days on end, like the Blackpool playoff which lasted weeks last night I’d moved on with relegation by 10.30
    I felt the same

  4. #29

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    I think you should widen your lens, society in general has become apathetic, downtrodden and accepting of their lot, this is not a Cardiff City thing, it's the UK in general..

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splott-light... View Post
    I think you should widen your lens, society in general has become apathetic, downtrodden and accepting of their lot, this is not a Cardiff City thing, it's the UK in general..
    Im 62, and I cant remember a time when the British public havent been apathetic, downtrodden and accepting of their lot.

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Im 62, and I cant remember a time when the British public havent been apathetic, downtrodden and accepting of their lot.
    you sound apathetic, downtrodden and accepting of your lot.

    you'll fit in well here.

  7. #32

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    Staying up would just feel like delaying the inevitable because were only going in one direction.

    I am bothered about potentially becoming Wales third team. Never thought that would happen, not in my lifetime.

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole View Post
    Staying up would just feel like delaying the inevitable because were only going in one direction.

    I am bothered about potentially becoming Wales third team. Never thought that would happen, not in my lifetime.
    If Huw Jenkins does anything at Newport, we might be thinking that being Wales' 3rd team would be a target.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole View Post
    I am bothered about potentially becoming Wales third team. Never thought that would happen, not in my lifetime.
    Yes, that would be humiliating.

  10. #35

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    Still find it hard to care

    Joke of a club, joke of an owner, joke of a manager. Relegation zone by Tuesday night and would be amazed if we get out of it at any point this season

    Deserve everything we get. Pathetic

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Still find it hard to care

    Joke of a club, joke of an owner, joke of a manager. Relegation zone by Tuesday night and would be amazed if we get out of it at any point this season

    Deserve everything we get. Pathetic
    No. i couldn't care less, that ship sailed long ago. I like talking about football, and i still support the club and probably always will, but not to the extent where it can even spoil an hour of my day anymore. Get someone in who cares, communicates, is pro active, then maybe i'll be those things as well.

  12. #37

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    Yes because we have had ample opportunities and probably will have more to escape. This would be a lot less irritating if we were on 25 points and set to be confirmed imminently. We have players who can play but have zero fight in them, so it's dragged this mess of a season on so much longer as they are capable of getting us results.

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    Yes because we have had ample opportunities and probably will have more to escape. This would be a lot less irritating if we were on 25 points and set to be confirmed imminently. We have players who can play but have zero fight in them, so it's dragged this mess of a season on so much longer as they are capable of getting us results.
    We have players who can play in bursts and who then proceed to do **** all in a game, or who make basic errors or actually turn in to a liability. It's a mistake people make, just because someone looks good for 15 minutes, it doesn't mean that they're good players. Good players have an influence on proceedings when everything is going against them, on here (and i don't mean you) there's excuse after excuse for some of these players, wrong position, not enough quality around them, tactics were wrong etc, etc. i just think that a lot of it is bullshit.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    We have players who can play in bursts and who then proceed to do **** all in a game, or who make basic errors or actually turn in to a liability. It's a mistake people make, just because someone looks good for 15 minutes, it doesn't mean that they're good players. Good players have an influence on proceedings when everything is going against them, on here (and i don't mean you) there's excuse after excuse for some of these players, wrong position, not enough quality around them, tactics were wrong etc, etc. i just think that a lot of it is bullshit.
    I've got to disagree there, plenty of average players influence games just off sheer will to get stuck in and force something to happen... quite a few of the squad that took us up under Warnock weren't really any 'good' but they believed they were. That's worth just as much.

  15. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    I've got to disagree there, plenty of average players influence games just off sheer will to get stuck in and force something to happen... quite a few of the squad that took us up under Warnock weren't really any 'good' but they believed they were. That's worth just as much.
    There weren't many bad players in that Warnock squad, average, no doubt, Warnock was just very good at recognising their strengths, but more importantly their weaknesses, and not getting them doing things that would set them up to fail.

  16. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    No. i couldn't care less, that ship sailed long ago. I like talking about football, and i still support the club and probably always will, but not to the extent where it can even spoil an hour of my day anymore. Get someone in who cares, communicates, is pro active, then maybe i'll be those things as well.
    Same here. Not bothered at all.

    Yesterday evening I went to watch Trethomas Bluebirds play Cambrian and Clydach with my lad. Nice welcome when I bought my ticket and said we'd never been there before. Coffee and crisps at half time for around 6 for us both. It was a relatively drab 0-0 in the end but as a complete neutral it was a more enjoyable watch than many a City game has been for years.

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Same here. Not bothered at all.

    Yesterday evening I went to watch Trethomas Bluebirds play Cambrian and Clydach with my lad. Nice welcome when I bought my ticket and said we'd never been there before. Coffee and crisps at half time for around 6 for us both. It was a relatively drab 0-0 in the end but as a complete neutral it was a more enjoyable watch than many a City game has been for years.
    What level is that, Eric?

  18. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    What level is that, Eric?
    Cymru South, one from the Welsh prem. Trethomas have had a very good season, 2nd behind Llanelli but they're 4 points behind with 2 games to go. He wants to go to Cambrian next Friday for his birthday! A few years ago he was a mascot at the Wolves game when we missed those penalties. My brother in law, apart from being a long time season ticket holder, is also a regular at Taffs Wells games, so my lad has got the bug from that.

  19. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Cymru South, one from the Welsh prem. Trethomas have had a very good season, 2nd behind Llanelli but they're 4 points behind with 2 games to go. He wants to go to Cambrian next Friday for his birthday! A few years ago he was a mascot at the Wolves game when we missed those penalties. My brother in law, apart from being a long time season ticket holder, is also a regular at Taffs Wells games, so my lad has got the bug from that.
    I'm from Trethomas. Come on the Bluebirds!

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Cymru South, one from the Welsh prem. Trethomas have had a very good season, 2nd behind Llanelli but they're 4 points behind with 2 games to go. He wants to go to Cambrian next Friday for his birthday! A few years ago he was a mascot at the Wolves game when we missed those penalties. My brother in law, apart from being a long time season ticket holder, is also a regular at Taffs Wells games, so my lad has got the bug from that.
    I thought as much. I've been to watch a game at cambrian, nice set up there, watched the play penybont, my boy was doing the filming for Penybont. there's a nice cafe just across the road that do great bacon rolls Inexpensive and a nice few hours out where you actually feel that your presence is actually making a contribution.

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Same here. Not bothered at all.

    Yesterday evening I went to watch Trethomas Bluebirds play Cambrian and Clydach with my lad. Nice welcome when I bought my ticket and said we'd never been there before. Coffee and crisps at half time for around 6 for us both. It was a relatively drab 0-0 in the end but as a complete neutral it was a more enjoyable watch than many a City game has been for years.
    You described it as being "relatively drab". With that in mind, and given the fact that you had no emotional attachment to either side, what made it an enjoyable watch for you?

  22. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    You described it as being "relatively drab". With that in mind, and given the fact that you had no emotional attachment to either side, what made it an enjoyable watch for you?
    Interesting question and one that deserves thinking about and a decent answer.

    The game itself was pretty bereft of goal mouth action, I don't think either keeper had more than a routine save to make, and there weren't many of those. So what made such a game a relatively enjoyable one? I've been to dozens of Welsh league games over the years, hardly a regular but I know roughly what to expect. I've seen some really dire stuff amongst all of that!

    I think the lack of attachment is one thing. No getting wound up when players make basic mistakes. No feeling of needing to win. No feeling of "here we go again".

    Both sides had a go at each other and tried to play football. Yes, they're not Championship footballers but, all things being relative, there was enough skill on display, some excellent passing, pace in attack, just it was one of those games where neither side could quite find the final ball. Trethomas played some quite intricate football at times but were let down by a misplaced pass at times. Cambrian were more direct at times but both kept the ball on the floor without much passing just for the sake of it. Both sides tried to get players forward as much as they could. No theatrics, no cheating. One thing I notice about football at this level is how much you can hear the players instructing each other. Cambrian's captain kept yelling encouragement to his team throughout the second half. Of course the football is never going to be of the standard of a football league game, but that's never been something that's bothered me much.

    One of my favourite non league moments was in Fraserburgh a few years ago. Their assistant used the F word between virtually every other word and kept telling their players they were crap throughout the game. At one point Fraserburgh had an attack and someone had the ball about 30 yards from goal. This assistant yells to tell the player not to shoot, but this is ignored by the player. The assistant calls him a wanker and kicks over trays of water bottles. Meanwhile, the long range effort finds the top corner!

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Interesting question and one that deserves thinking about and a decent answer.

    The game itself was pretty bereft of goal mouth action, I don't think either keeper had more than a routine save to make, and there weren't many of those. So what made such a game a relatively enjoyable one? I've been to dozens of Welsh league games over the years, hardly a regular but I know roughly what to expect. I've seen some really dire stuff amongst all of that!

    I think the lack of attachment is one thing. No getting wound up when players make basic mistakes. No feeling of needing to win. No feeling of "here we go again".

    Both sides had a go at each other and tried to play football. Yes, they're not Championship footballers but, all things being relative, there was enough skill on display, some excellent passing, pace in attack, just it was one of those games where neither side could quite find the final ball. Trethomas played some quite intricate football at times but were let down by a misplaced pass at times. Cambrian were more direct at times but both kept the ball on the floor without much passing just for the sake of it. Both sides tried to get players forward as much as they could. No theatrics, no cheating. One thing I notice about football at this level is how much you can hear the players instructing each other. Cambrian's captain kept yelling encouragement to his team throughout the second half. Of course the football is never going to be of the standard of a football league game, but that's never been something that's bothered me much.

    One of my favourite non league moments was in Fraserburgh a few years ago. Their assistant used the F word between virtually every other word and kept telling their players they were crap throughout the game. At one point Fraserburgh had an attack and someone had the ball about 30 yards from goal. This assistant yells to tell the player not to shoot, but this is ignored by the player. The assistant calls him a wanker and kicks over trays of water bottles. Meanwhile, the long range effort finds the top corner!
    Interesting, and a good reply!

    After I'd been to my first City game back in '68, I never really attended any kind of grassroots games, not similar to the experience you had visiting a Cymru South fixture, for sure.
    But I remember in the 70s, City's away game at Bolton Wanderers was called off just as we arrived outside the stadium.
    We ended up attending Rochdale vs Darlington in the old Fourth Division.
    Naturally, the 400 or so City supporters there that day had no affinity to either side.
    Nevertheless, it was an interesting experience. Being able to walk freely around all four sides of the ground, hearing the players shouting for the ball (as you said), large weeds growing from the cracks in the terraces, the pitifully small floodlights (City's were amongst the biggest in the league) and, despite our presence, a noticeable lack of police.
    The whole experience was rather 'homely' and chilled.
    Of course, City were to get first-hand experience of this themselves when they later slipped into the basement.

  24. #49

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    Fu@k me ! What a bunch of miserable old gits . It's a game !!! Enjoy the good moments . Be a little positive . We have some really promising young players in the squad and more coming through . I would be very disappointed IF we go down but I will still watch every single game , unfortunately on the TV as I have moved abroad . My car is plastered with city stickers and have persuaded many locals to take an interest . I'm like a missionary

  25. #50

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    Que sera sera. I might be a tad bothered when we sell Ashford and Colwill to Wrexham.

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