FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 1 STOKE CITY. Match thread

[Rjk]

No. Dan James made mincemeat out of our slow defence on both occasions. That's all. The first wasn't even close.

To be fair, we aren't the first team to struggle against Dan James on a good day

[The Lone Gunman]

To be fair, we aren't the first team to struggle against Dan James on a good day

No, but we are the only team to be beaten 7-0 at Leeds since 1972.

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3

[Eric the Half a Bee]

No, but we are the only team to be beaten 7-0 at Leeds since 1972.

And some reckon we've achieved nothing this season.

[the other bob wilson]

No, but we are the only team to be beaten 7-0 at Leeds since 1972.

Reminds of when Warnock’s Leeds were beaten 7-3 at Elland Road by Forest.

[Crisp White Lines]

When Stoke appointed Robins I thought it would only work out if he was given a pot of money to get the players he needed.

It seems he preferred to stick with the existing squad and bring in two loans: Ali Al-Hamadi and Josh Wilson-Esbrand

Maybe he doesn’t have an immediate impact at clubs, but is someone with more of a longer-term plan.

Is his approach the right one for them given their relegation worries?

[the other bob wilson]

When Stoke appointed Robins I thought it would only work out if he was given a pot of money to get the players he needed.

It seems he preferred to stick with the existing squad and bring in two loans: Ali Al-Hamadi and Josh Wilson-Esbrand

Maybe he doesn’t have an immediate impact at clubs, but is someone with more of a longer-term plan.

Is his approach the right one for them given their relegation worries?

Impossible to tell with Stoke because, incredible though it may seem, their long term planning is even worse than ours.

[Crisp White Lines]

Impossible to tell with Stoke because, incredible though it may seem, their long term planning is even worse than ours.

True.

Robins has gone on record saying he doesn’t like to hop from one job to another, but enters into each position with a view to it being a project for the long term.

Very unlike Stoke.

[olderblue]

When Stoke appointed Robins I thought it would only work out if he was given a pot of money to get the players he needed.

It seems he preferred to stick with the existing squad and bring in two loans: Ali Al-Hamadi and Josh Wilson-Esbrand

Maybe he doesn’t have an immediate impact at clubs, but is someone with more of a longer-term plan.

Is his approach the right one for them given their relegation worries?

Aren’t Stoke owned by the Coats family?
If so relegation won’t hurt them financially at all, maybe after chopping and changing, they have gone with someone who has an excellent track record, who has gone on to recruit and develop players for big money transfers.

It could be a case of holding the fort this season or at least attempting to, and then starting the whole process of clearing out the current squad and building for the future, who knows?

It might take a bit of time, but whatever they were doing previously hasn’t worked, so maybe there’s a change of plan from the top

Getting 3 points tomorrow is our priority , maybe someone in our boardroom will look at other club models when we get to the end of this season

I’m not holding my breath on that one

[Crisp White Lines]

Aren’t Stoke owned by the Coats family?
If so relegation won’t hurt them financially at all, maybe after chopping and changing, they have gone with someone who has an excellent track record, who has gone on to recruit and develop players for big money transfers.

It could be a case of holding the fort this season or at least attempting to, and then starting the whole process of clearing out the current squad and building for the future, who knows?

It might take a bit of time, but whatever they were doing previously hasn’t worked, so maybe there’s a change of plan from the top

Getting 3 points tomorrow is our priority , maybe someone in our boardroom will look at other club models when we get to the end of this season

I’m not holding my breath on that one

Interesting thoughts.

Having recently been in the third tier, and getting out of it, maybe they could be less fearful of getting stuck down there forever?

[Rjk]

Aren’t Stoke owned by the Coats family?
If so relegation won’t hurt them financially at all, maybe after chopping and changing, they have gone with someone who has an excellent track record, who has gone on to recruit and develop players for big money transfers.

It could be a case of holding the fort this season or at least attempting to, and then starting the whole process of clearing out the current squad and building for the future, who knows?

It might take a bit of time, but whatever they were doing previously hasn’t worked, so maybe there’s a change of plan from the top

Getting 3 points tomorrow is our priority , maybe someone in our boardroom will look at other club models when we get to the end of this season

I’m not holding my breath on that one

Relegation will hurt them financially the same as it would us.

Something like a £6-7million reduction in income per season.
Not ideal but nothing like the drop of losing premier league money.
Should be manageable through reducing the wage bill, maybe one or 2 player sales.

Interestingly if we were to sell out the ground every week in league one it might pretty much make up the difference in income

Clubs like Bolton and Wrexham through different means are able to raise similar revenues in league one as non parachute payment championship clubs

[North Cardiff Blue]

When Stoke appointed Robins I thought it would only work out if he was given a pot of money to get the players he needed.

It seems he preferred to stick with the existing squad and bring in two loans: Ali Al-Hamadi and Josh Wilson-Esbrand

Maybe he doesn’t have an immediate impact at clubs, but is someone with more of a longer-term plan.

Is his approach the right one for them given their relegation worries?

Coventry fans reckon his number two was very important, Adi Viveash left in July and he did struggle after that, and Coventry improved massively under Lampard. Stoke aren't great and this is a winnable game.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Aren’t Stoke owned by the Coats family?
If so relegation won’t hurt them financially at all, maybe after chopping and changing, they have gone with someone who has an excellent track record, who has gone on to recruit and develop players for big money transfers.

It could be a case of holding the fort this season or at least attempting to, and then starting the whole process of clearing out the current squad and building for the future, who knows?

It might take a bit of time, but whatever they were doing previously hasn’t worked, so maybe there’s a change of plan from the top

Getting 3 points tomorrow is our priority , maybe someone in our boardroom will look at other club models when we get to the end of this season

I’m not holding my breath on that one

Hopefully they'l be fetching their coats for a trip to League one in a few weeks!

[The Lone Gunman]

Clouds gathering over the CCS tomorrow. Literally.

All week the forecast has been for warm sunshine on Saturday afternoon. Now it's light rain from 3pm onwards...

[olderblue]

Relegation will hurt them financially the same as it would us.

Something like a £6-7million reduction in income per season.
Not ideal but nothing like the drop of losing premier league money.
Should be manageable through reducing the wage bill, maybe one or 2 player sales.

Interestingly if we were to sell out the ground every week in league one it might pretty much make up the difference in income

Clubs like Bolton and Wrexham through different means are able to raise similar revenues in league one as non parachute payment championship clubs

I’m not sure if you’re in the top 20 rich list of the UK that it would really make a difference

Let’s put it this way, they won’t be wondering around the supermarket looking for yellow stickers any time soon

[ninian opinian]

Stoke fans take on the game tomorrow. They’re as doom and gloom as us https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com...cardiff?page=1

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

" keep Colwill quiet and we should be ok "

[ToTaL ITK]

we will win 3-0

[Father Dougal]

It is astonishingly important as City's next game is Sheffield Utd and we're not allowed to get any points against them. Only teams like QPR, Pompey, Hull and Oxford are allowed to do that.

It is true though isnt it? Hull seem more than able to go away to the top 4 and win. Yet we beat them not long ago.

The way this cardiff side is the evidence is very clear we only have a chance of getting points against teams at the bottom or mid table teams on a bad run.

We have zero chance at Sheffield United.

[Dave Blue]

It is true though isnt it? Hull seem more than able to go away to the top 4 and win. Yet we beat them not long ago.

The way this cardiff side is the evidence is very clear we only have a chance of getting points against teams at the bottom or mid table teams on a bad run.

We have zero chance at Sheffield United.

It’s also very important who we do and don’t lose to at this point.

[Father Dougal]

It’s also very important who we do and don’t lose to at this point.

Yeah I know TLG has a thing about 6 pointers not existing but it's so obviously a double boost or double negative if we win or lose.

It will be a draw today though.

[poc]

Yeah I know TLG has a thing about 6 pointers not existing but it's so obviously a double boost or double negative if we win or lose.

It will be a draw today though.

never mind 6 pointers radio wales think this is a 9 pointer

[Michael Morris]

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[Father Dougal]

Plymouth 0 0 at the moment v shef United. Got a feeling Plymouth going to win this.

[Former Labour leader]

Plymouth 0 0 at the moment v shef United. Got a feeling Plymouth going to win this.

1-0 Sheff
Plymouth look worse than us.