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Thread: League 1 Revenue

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    League 1 Revenue

    Been on a few pod casts the last few days

    If we did go down the figure of losing 7 to 8 million quid in revenue seems the figure being banded about

    Without stating the obvious but does that figure ring true ?

    thought it would be alot more

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Been on a few pod casts the last few days

    If we did go down the figure of losing 7 to 8 million quid in revenue seems the figure being banded about

    Without stating the obvious but does that figure ring true ?

    thought it would be alot more
    I looked at the accounts of a few championship teams and a few league one teams and I put the difference at around 6.5 million per season. based on TV money only.
    there was an article recently that had it at at 7.5 million, so not far off.

    we probably almost have that covered through senior players being out of contract and wage reductions in other players contracts kicking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I looked at the accounts of a few championship teams and a few league one teams and I put the difference at around 6.5 million per season. based on TV money only.
    there was an article recently that had it at at 7.5 million, so not far off.

    we probably almost have that covered through senior players being out of contract and wage reductions in other players contracts kicking in.
    oh well looks about right then

    as mentioned on another post the player turnover will be enormous next season if we go down !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    we probably almost have that covered through senior players being out of contract and wage reductions in other players contracts kicking in.
    A lot our players don't have wage reductions, Borley confirmed it

    I can imagine some of the higher earners won't, for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    A lot our players don't have wage reductions, Borley confirmed it

    I can imagine some of the higher earners won't, for example
    We debated this in the pub after the game, whether players would have wage reductions in their contracts and all came down on the side of the club being too stupid to put them in

    Glad to have it confirmed

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    We debated this in the pub after the game, whether players would have wage reductions in their contracts and all came down on the side of the club being too stupid to put them in

    Glad to have it confirmed
    Borley said "some players contracts include relegation clause but even that would not be enough, so cost cutting would be needed"

    Choo and Dalman might just be the thickest and most incompetent directors on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Borley said "some players contracts include relegation clause but even that would not be enough, so cost cutting would be needed"

    Choo and Dalman might just be the thickest and most incompetent directors on the planet.
    this has been discussed a few times recently on pod casts

    I would guess O Dowda , NG ,Robertson and Robinson would have clauses in there contracts

    can't think of any others maybe chambers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    this has been discussed a few times recently on pod casts

    I would guess O Dowda , NG ,Robertson and Robinson would have clauses in there contracts

    can't think of any others maybe chambers ?
    The players signed in the summer won't. Players who renewed under Bulut won't. COD and Robinson wouldn't have signed a contract like that either. It'll be bugger all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    The players signed in the summer won't. Players who renewed under Bulut won't. COD and Robinson wouldn't have signed a contract like that either. It'll be bugger all.
    with so many players out of contract its difficult to see how it all pans out but fair points raised there but i think Robertson and COD will leave if we go down tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    with so many players out of contract its difficult to see how it all pans out but fair points raised there but i think Robertson and COD will leave if we go down tho
    Only Goutas, Rino, Ramsey, Ralls, Collins, AEG, Yak and Ralls are out of contract. I wouldn't keep any if we were to stay up bar Ralls.

    We have about 20 senior pros that are under contract for next season, someone has got to want to take them off our hands. We've also got the amortisation problem. We won't be able to sell Daland, as we'll have to record a loss as we decided to spend 4m on him . He'll be worth 3m in next years' accounts, so we can't afford to write that off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Only Goutas, Rino, Ramsey, Ralls, Collins, AEG, Yak and Ralls are out of contract. I wouldn't keep any if we were to stay up bar Ralls.

    We have about 20 senior pros that are under contract for next season, someone has got to want to take them off our hands. We've also got the amortisation problem. We won't be able to sell Daland, as we'll have to record a loss as we decided to spend 4m on him . He'll be worth 3m in next years' accounts, so we can't afford to write that off.
    Rino, Rallsy and Yak must be worth a contract imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Only Goutas, Rino, Ramsey, Ralls, Collins, AEG, Yak and Ralls are out of contract. I wouldn't keep any if we were to stay up bar Ralls.

    We have about 20 senior pros that are under contract for next season, someone has got to want to take them off our hands. We've also got the amortisation problem. We won't be able to sell Daland, as we'll have to record a loss as we decided to spend 4m on him . He'll be worth 3m in next years' accounts, so we can't afford to write that off.
    the transfer committee not Bulut made a bad mistake with Daland .

    as for Ralls would be perfect in league 1 if we go direct next season . would be first on my team sheet and club captain too again

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    Re: League 1 Revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    the transfer committee not Bulut made a bad mistake with Daland .

    as for Ralls would be perfect in league 1 if we go direct next season . would be first on my team sheet and club captain too again
    What's Bulut got to do with anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    Rino, Rallsy and Yak must be worth a contract imho
    We've got some absolute garbage signed on for next season. We won't be able to keep everyone we want to as we won't be able to shift everyone we don't want.

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    I don't see why we wouldn't be able to keep hold of anyone we didn't want to sell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    What's Bulut got to do with anything?
    without stating the obvious but his signing was when Bulut was the manager !

    Bulut has been very vocal about the transfer committee signing players under his regime if you choose to look

    by the way where did you get 4 million from ? was an undisclosed fee at the time

    is that fee out in the public domain ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I don't see why we wouldn't be able to keep hold of anyone we didn't want to sell
    Because we need to cut costs, and we might be forced into selling Salech (for example) as we can't shift some of other other big earners

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    without stating the obvious but his signing was when Bulut was the manager !

    Bulut has been very vocal about the transfer committee signing players under his regime if you choose to look

    by the way where did you get 4 million from ? was an undisclosed fee at the time

    is that fee out in the public domain ?
    I don't care who signed him, he's crap. Erol Bulut is long gone, I don't care about him.

    That was the rumoured fee. BBC reported it to be around 3.5m

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    the transfer committee not Bulut made a bad mistake with Daland .

    as for Ralls would be perfect in league 1 if we go direct next season . would be first on my team sheet and club captain too again
    As it happens, Erol's fingerprints are all over this one

    Bulut said: “We tried to get him in January, but it was not possible because the club would not let him go. He is a great defender, but also with the ball in the build-up, he will help us a lot.
    “He can play from the left side and use both feet, which is very important for us. The fans will enjoy him.”

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    Re: League 1 Revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    I don't care who signed him, he's crap. Erol Bulut is long gone, I don't care about him.

    That was the rumoured fee. BBC reported it to be around 3.5m
    oh i agree about Dalaand but couldn't find any trusted source about a fee even with my contacts . it s all a bit wishy washy about the fee so it seems

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    Re: League 1 Revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    the transfer committee not Bulut made a bad mistake with Daland .

    as for Ralls would be perfect in league 1 if we go direct next season . would be first on my team sheet and club captain too again
    Interesting that you talk about Ralls in the capacity of 'Club Captain' and not team captain.
    Team captain would require the player to be a nailed-on starter..Ralls rivals Ramsey in the injury-prone stakes. Another year older, and probably another yard slower.
    I can envisage him picking up lots of yellow cards in his cameo appearances, simply because he would have to resort to grabbing the shirts of average players who just happen to have the pace to breeze past him.
    Ralls' wages would be an issue too. Whilst I don't claim to be privy to how much he earns, I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the top percentage of earners.

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    Re: League 1 Revenue

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Because we need to cut costs, and we might be forced into selling Salech (for example) as we can't shift some of other other big earners
    I don't think there would need to be a fire sale, the players out of contract already would naturally reduce the wage bill by something very close to the drop in income.
    the club have confirmed that some players have a relegation clause on their contract.
    and in league one we don't have the same constraints on losses, so if tan wants he can just absorb any reduction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Interesting that you talk about Ralls in the capacity of 'Club Captain' and not team captain.
    Team captain would require the player to be a nailed-on starter..Ralls rivals Ramsey in the injury-prone stakes. Another year older, and probably another yard slower.
    I can envisage him picking up lots of yellow cards in his cameo appearances, simply because he would have to resort to grabbing the shirts of average players who just happen to have the pace to breeze past him.
    Ralls' wages would be an issue too. Whilst I don't claim to be privy to how much he earns, I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the top percentage of earners.
    Let's give Ralls a good kicking. One of the few players that actually cares and tries. There's 15 players I'd slag out before I got to Ralls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I don't think there would need to be a fire sale, the players out of contract already would naturally reduce the wage bill by something very close to the drop in income.
    the club have confirmed that some players have a relegation clause on their contract.
    and in league one we don't have the same constraints on losses, so if tan wants he can just absorb any reduction
    Borley has said the wage reductions don't go far enough and we'd need to cut costs.

  25. #25

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    We might be able to sell a few.Loan a couple out as well..
    The ones what are left I'd give them 2 weeks off then back in on the weights
    Interestingly The Stevenage manager told Eli King he wasn't strong enough

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