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Thread: One of the most Efficient in the championship

  1. #76

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Mid-table plus, even after a bad start, and then playoffs next season would be a reasonable expectation.

    We leak goals like a sieve, and a decent manager would sort that out in the first training session. Can't you remember what Warnock did in a few weeks?
    Pass me the details of your supplier.

  2. #77

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It cannot be denied that, if we'd got 6 more points from those opening 7 games, we would be breathing a little more easily.
    It also cannot be denied that if we'd got six or even four morepoints at any other stage of the season we'd be comfortable. That 9-game run between 06/11 and 26/12 was particularly abysmal, and included defeats to Luton (A), QPR (H), Preston (H) and Oxford (A). Really poor form.

  3. #78

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It also cannot be denied that if we'd got six or even four morepoints at any other stage of the season we'd be comfortable. That 9-game run between 06/11 and 26/12 was particularly abysmal, and included defeats to Luton (A), QPR (H), Preston (H) and Oxford (A). Really poor form.
    I'm not denying that. While I'm on the fence regarding Riza, and I know you've never wanted him in charge from the start, so our opinions will differ, our overall form under Riza should see us survive relatively comfortably. To lumber him with Bulut's start would be unfair. Riza was lucky to survive after that defeat to Oxford but, since then, we're 14th in the form table, that's with us throwing away too many points from winning positions. 4 wins is disappointing, but 4 defeats in 14 is more than reasonable.

  4. #79

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by olderblue View Post
    I dont know, but I think its likely that we would be in a better position than 4 wins in 23 games
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Ok. I'm not convinced. Convince me
    Nothing to convince anyone about anything
    You believe its a poor squad, I think it has poor players in the squad and is capable of better

    I dont think we have the right coaching set up, and youre on the fence

    I will say I love the way you put stats and stuff out, it must take an age and I always look forward to reading anything about the City, so fair play to you

    I have a view that a Nathan Jones type of coach would have been a better choice
    Experience and a successful track record

    Is it a fact, definitely not, but I do know that while Im getting ready to go down tonight its with a hope that we win, and a concern for the future if we dont

    In reality we should never be that concerned when playing a team with such a poor away record as Luton

  5. #80

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Looks like Deboys isn't off to Derby after all https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/jo...atrick-deboys/

  6. #81

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post

    transfer chief Patrick Deboys is leading that change

    the club have had to rip up and move away from their old scouting network to implement a new, data-driven model to sign players.

    "We've got 30-35% of the first team now being supplied by the academy, which is great and we're seeing the benefits of that"

    "We have one of the most efficient recruitment departments in the league"

    "Over the long term, if we can make the squad better after every window, that's the most pleasing aspect."

    Anybody heard from Patrick Deboys recently?

    I would love to get a bit more information on these benefits of 30-35% academy take up of the first team.

    You know he has been with the club for almost ten years? Who does his year-end appraisals? Oh, hang on..

  7. #82

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamsarnie View Post
    I would love to get a bit more information on these benefits of 30-35% academy take up of the first team.
    I think the benefits are quite obvious.

    That's 3-4 players who you don't need to pay a transfer fee for, leaving more money to strengthen the remining places.

    academy players are almost always on a lower wage.

    There's a chance that the academy players will kick on and really increase in value, giving another income stream from selling them on.


    It's definitely a good approach to take for a club of our size.

    Bringing through youngsters is hard though - there's a reason Warnock didn't want to bother with it. They are inconsistent, make errors, and you never know how much they're going to develop. From a manager's point of view there's a good chance they'll be sacked before you ever see the benefit of persisting with them. However from the club's point of view its definitely preferable to having a load of ageing players on large wages that you can't get rid of.

    Most other clubs in the division are doing it to an extent - maybe 2-3 debuts per season, with 1 or 2 in time becoming embedded in the first team.

    having 3-4 of the team from the academy is ambitious and would put us in line with some of the better clubs in that respect.

  8. #83

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    This article aged well then. To be fair he didn't say which league we have one of the best recruiting setups in, he may just have been very good at seeing into the future.

  9. #84

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post

    …From a manager's point of view there's a good chance they'll be sacked before you ever see the benefit of persisting with them.
    At the time of the article - and probably over the past decade - I don't think anybody thought the first team squad was capable of absorbing that percentage of academy players.

    If the hierarchy at Cardiff feel this approach is the most profitable way to run/own the club and they're not fussed what league we end up playing in, then the lack of action to halt our nailed on relegation this season makes a bit more sense.

    I just wish they'd be a bit more honest about it and have the bollox to tell the fans.

  10. #85

    Re: One of the most Efficient in the championship

    Quote Originally Posted by LA Bluebird View Post
    This article aged well then. To be fair he didn't say which league we have one of the best recruiting setups in, he may just have been very good at seeing into the future.
    Any ire directed at Omer Riza, a lot should be directed at this charlatan...

    And Riza, and Tan, Dalman, Choo, Borley, the players, coaches, physios

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