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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

    Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.
    the days of a kick up the arse are going, would professional footballers respond to that now ? ? I dont know

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    Re: Goutas interview

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

    Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.
    Buckie. Just how many baby names are you going to give to an out if work manager who is not Cardiff bound (allegedly)?

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    The only players who can draw conclusions about how the fans perceived last season are Joe Ralls, possibly Perry Ng and perhaps the likes of Isaak Davies and Rubin Colwill. The rest of them haven’t been here long enough to understand or appreciate what it’s been like watching Cardiff City play for the last five seasons. This applies particularly to those supporters who rarely get to watch away games where I’d say that, generally speaking, we’ve done okay during the 2020s. At home though, it’s been miserable watching us play. I’m not going to repeat all the stats, they been posted on here before, but here’s one - in four of the past five seasons, we’ve lost more home games than we won and, in the other one we won ten and lost ten.
    People call for protest marches and it seems like Goutas is saying the fans should have been harder on the players last season, but I would argue that a majority of the predominantly home support have been ground down, first by dull and ugly football which at least saw us winning pretty regularly to dull, losing football where you’d see the same mistakes being repeated time after time. Put all of that with chronic ineptitude in the Boardroom and from the owner and it’s led to support that has had its joy and enthusiasm reduced to the extent that apathy rules these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

    Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.
    He was a problem. He was by no means the only problem. We'd been circling the drain for 4 seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    The only players who can draw conclusions about how the fans perceived last season are Joe Ralls, possibly Perry Ng and perhaps the likes of Isaak Davies and Rubin Colwill. The rest of them haven’t been here long enough to understand or appreciate what it’s been like watching Cardiff City play for the last five seasons. This applies particularly to those supporters who rarely get to watch away games where I’d say that, generally speaking, we’ve done okay during the 2020s. At home though, it’s been miserable watching us play. I’m not going to repeat all the stats, they been posted on here before, but here’s one - in four of the past five seasons, we’ve lost more home games than we won and, in the other one we won ten and lost ten.
    People call for protest marches and it seems like Goutas is saying the fans should have been harder on the players last season, but I would argue that a majority of the predominantly home support have been ground down, first by dull and ugly football which at least saw us winning pretty regularly to dull, losing football where you’d see the same mistakes being repeated time after time. Put all of that with chronic ineptitude in the Boardroom and from the owner and it’s led to support that has had its joy and enthusiasm reduced to the extent that apathy rules these days.
    Well said.

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    I take that interview as he expected more aggression and anger from the fans towards the team and the players and he's right. We have become far too soft in the last 20 years. Days of Ninian where we made the ground a hellhole not just for opposition but for players on our own team that didn't perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    I take that interview as he expected more aggression and anger from the fans towards the team and the players and he's right. We have become far too soft in the last 20 years. Days of Ninian where we made the ground a hellhole not just for opposition but for players on our own team that didn't perform.
    Ninian Park a hellhole a shithole more like. The days that it was intimidating were very few & far between. Funny how some seem to liken it to a regular Boca/River Plate atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    I take that interview as he expected more aggression and anger from the fans towards the team and the players and he's right. We have become far too soft in the last 20 years. Days of Ninian where we made the ground a hellhole not just for opposition but for players on our own team that didn't perform.
    But thankfully we have a scapegoat of Tan, where everything that goes wrong on the field is his fault.

    As it has been June 2012

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    But thankfully we have a scapegoat of Tan, where everything that goes wrong on the field is his fault.

    As it has been June 2012
    Being critical of an owner who, if not at the Man City or Newcastle level, would still be considered by all of us to be very rich, has overseen a football club that is in a much position in almost every respect than it was on the date you mention hardly qualifies as scapegoating, it's more stating facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Perhaps he was just pointing out the cultural differences but it's nonsense to think we didn't know we were in trouble and I imagine everyone in the club knew too. Watching the team submit every week helped with that. But just because fans tried to get behind the team or were philosophical or had a greater sense of perspective doesn't mean we were culpable.

    And what if we did start throwing rotten fruit? Someone like Ryan Wintle would tell us all to calm down. The players and manager would say we all need to stick together.

    This reminds me of another thing becoming more common in football - the waving of arms by players to get the crowd going. Oh are we not making enough effort? Are we losing/going down because of the atmosphere? No, the team were crap, Dimi.

    Interesting interview, mind.

    MeiteÂ’s reaction to mild criticism that, as a striker, he hadnÂ’t scored many goals? He threw his toys out of the pram.

    Then, when one went in after a cross diverted in, off his head, you would have thought that it was the equivalent of just “needing one to go in off his backside”.

    But no, he probably thought “right that showed you lot, didn’t it”, and reverted to type. By which I mean like watching a combination of a Darlek and a Dodge-um attempting to play football for the very first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    It's a bit bizarre really. How all these footballers manage to settle and do well in and around merseyside, Glasgow, tyneside, Midlands I don't know.

    Pretty good interview, we don't really get to hear that much from ex players. Some of it regarding the attitude around the club was pretty damning although he seems to have just gone with the flow which is a bit disappointing.

    It's a much different fan base to even when I was a boy 20 odd years ago, some for the better, some for worse. I think overall though we have had the life sucked out of the club.
    Are we sure they aren't referring to Welsh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Perhaps he was just pointing out the cultural differences but it's nonsense to think we didn't know we were in trouble and I imagine everyone in the club knew too. Watching the team submit every week helped with that. But just because fans tried to get behind the team or were philosophical or had a greater sense of perspective doesn't mean we were culpable.

    And what if we did start throwing rotten fruit? Someone like Ryan Wintle would tell us all to calm down. The players and manager would say we all need to stick together.

    This reminds me of another thing becoming more common in football - the waving of arms by players to get the crowd going. Oh are we not making enough effort? Are we losing/going down because of the atmosphere? No, the team were crap, Dimi.

    Interesting interview, mind.
    Good post

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