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    Re: Palestine Action

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...se-powers-gaza

    'We have laws to deal with crimes linked to protest. What this is really about is a government complicit in the Gaza atrocities seeking to silence dissent.' (Juliet Stevenson)
    That's a very powerful piece I reckon, made all the more so by what she says in the closing paragraphs.

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    Surely you recognize a group that pushes for damage of state military and consistently does so is at least an issue, and not some grand conspiracy?

    What if some far right group caused Ł30m of damage to the coastguard and proposed to continue to do it because of their enabling role in the boat crossings? Would that just be vandalism?

    This has nothing to do with post WW2 and even less to do with Thatcher
    The problem is that the state military is playing a role in harbouring and sheltering a rogue state committing ethnic cleansing, and may have been on the way to assist Israel in a full-out, completely unsubstantiated and unjustified war against Iran. And yet Palestine Action took an action that ultimately harmed nobody, let alone seriously. It was restrained, and yet this is the disproportionate reaction from the government.

    And yes, it does have a lot to do with post WW2 and Thatcher. From the mid-late forties to the seventies, a lot of initiatives were introduced that ushered in an age of economic prosperity and well-being for the citizenry, a lot of which began getting revoked under Thatcher and the neoliberal leaders that followed her. The result is an asset-stripping from the citizenry, and we're now being told there's a possibility we could be involved in fighting on the behalf of a nation conducting a genocide. You can't just give something to the citizenry, and then take it away without expecting them to be furious, and it has disaster written all over it. The corruption in the British and American governments is at a level not seen since the Gilded Age, and this moral crisis and demand we must respect the nation conducting a genocide is the cherry on top the shit sundae. By all standards something restrained from Palestine Action has resulted in them being declared terrorists on the same level as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, which is beyond ridiculous.

    People are furious, and this lack of engagement in critiquing Israel's actions in strong enough terms could be absolutely devastating, both morally and structurally.

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    https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

    For anyone who enjoys Grade A hypocrisy, read (above) the statement from the Israeli Embassy in London. Wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

    For anyone who enjoys Grade A hypocrisy, read (above) the statement from the Israeli Embassy in London. Wow!
    Are you saying it's bad to call for the death of people then?

    If so, our legal system should be intervening where such calls are made in this country then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

    For anyone who enjoys Grade A hypocrisy, read (above) the statement from the Israeli Embassy in London. Wow!
    Just awful!

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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...errorist-group

    MPs have voted to proscribe Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation despite concerns that the move could risk criminalising legitimate protest.

    The draft order to amend the Terrorism Act 2000 and proscribe the group, laid by the home secretary, Yvette Cooper, passed the Commons on Wednesday by 385 votes to 26.

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    After the vote, a Palestine Action spokesperson said: “We are confident that this unlawful order will be overturned. As United Nations experts have made clear, spraying red paint and disrupting the British-based operations of Israel’s largest weapons firm, Elbit Systems, is not terrorism.

    “The terrorism and war crimes are being committed by Israel against the Palestinian people – armed and enabled by this government.”

    Palestine Action is seeking a legal challenge against the government’s move to proscribe it. A hearing is expected on Friday to decide whether the ban can be temporarily blocked, pending further proceedings to decide whether a legal challenge can be brought.

    On Tuesday the lawyers group Network for Police Monitoring and the Haldane Society of Socialist Lawyers had warned the home secretary in two separate letters that proscribing Palestine Action would conflate protest and terrorism. The letters collectively were signed by hundreds of lawyers and by UN experts.

    Several UN special rapporteurs said they had contacted the UK government to say that “acts of protest that damage property, but are not intended to kill or injure people, should not be treated as terrorism”.

    The proscription order will go to the House of Lords and final approval is expected within days.

    Yasmine Ahmed, the UK director of Human Rights Watch, said: “The use of counter-terrorism legislation to proscribe Palestine Action is a grave abuse of state power and a terrifying escalation in this government’s crusade to curtail protest rights. The idea that a non-violent protest group could be classed in the same category as Islamic State or al-Qaida is utterly preposterous and sets an incredibly dangerous precedent.

    “Politicians should not be wielding the power of the state to protect corporate interests and silence legitimate non-violent protest.”

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