Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
The uk is a broken place anyway losing billions every year, who cares who votes anymore to be honest, another 1.5 million added to the millions of clueless numpties means nothing.
I understand the cynicism - but waving a white flag to the UK political parties and the neo-liberal consensus that most of them serve is not the answer.

The Chartists and the Suffragettes will be turning in their graves.

In my view we have a moral obligation to vote. The main parties may have more in common than differences - but the differences are still important.

If we don't like what is on offer, there are ways to change it from inside, or from outside.

Policy changes have been a regular feature of Starmer's first year - brought about by campaigners, trades unions, civil society putting pressure on MPs to defy the leadership.

Starmer is clueless, unprincipled and getting weaker. The Tories are a busted flush. Reform is a bitter and vacuous home for protest. The Lib Dems do bungee jumping. These people know how to play their game but they are not geniuses, they are usually not brave, and they have few roots. We (the public) can achieve change if we want to do that. Like the Chartists and the Suffragettes!