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Thread: The Transfer Rumour Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Yes, those are the rules for league one.

    our income will drop by 6-10m and we probably would have had a salary to income of higher than 60%

    if we had an income of around 24m and a wage bill of say 22m previously.

    then we might be looking at a new income of 16m and therefore would need the wage bill to reduce to less than 10m
    Watch that income figure rise by a few million if the Bale consortium takes over and by a more than decent amount if the South Africangroup buy out Tan.

  2. #502

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    Has this South African group been confirmed.?

  3. #503

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Has this South African group been confirmed.?
    Not by the club, they’re telling us Gareth Bale is a rumour.

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    I think Keith said the owner can top up the shortfall to avoid a breach of any rules

  5. #505

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I believe you’re right. I asked Keith a couple of weeks ago on here what the percentages of wages to turnover had been in recent seasons and, of course, have forgotten what he said now - think it was something like 75 per cent in 22/23 and 80 odd in 23/24.
    Paul

    My fuller comments on this are on the Trust website , but have summarised below as well

    1.Basic rule is that player wages must be capped at 60% of turnover but there are important definitions of both which have a major impact on that calculation.

    2. The latest audited accounts are for the year to 31 May 2024 when headline turnover was £23.2m and player wages £19.9m (86% of turnover).

    3. for this calculation, turnover includes

    a)normal matchday income, sponsorship and TV revenue
    b) any non refundable new cash introduced by the owner (i.e not loans)
    c)any profit on player sales, but only when the cash is received (many transfer fees are paid by instalments)
    d) any profits on non-matchday hospitality or facility hires


    4. For this calculation , player wages exclude

    a)wages of players out on loan covered by the club borrowing them
    b)any players under 21 as at the start of the season who came through the club`s youth development system and had been with the club for more than three years
    c) (an additional benefit for CCFC as a club just relegated from the Championship) - the wages of anyone signed before September 2024 on a three year plus contract

    As can be seen from the above there is plenty of leeway in the calculation to assist CCFC in being compliant with the rules, which are titled Salary Cap Maintenance Protocol.

    As for the headline figures involved , this carries a degree of "guestimate" as figures for the year to 31 May 2025 are not yet available.

    If an assumption is made that 2025 income and player wages were at similar levels to those in 2024 then , for this coming season basic turnover could be around £13m as it has dropped by £10m due to a reduction in the share of TV income of £8m between the Championship and League 1 and a fall of £2m in Premier League solidarity payments between the divisions. Normally this would be extremely concerning but I believe that virtually all of this ,if not all, is covered by the wages savings from all the players released when their contracts came to an end plus relegation clauses in player contracts still at the club reducing their current pay levels.

    Hopefully , this summary is helpful.

  6. #506

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    Paul

    My fuller comments on this are on the Trust website , but have summarised below as well

    1.Basic rule is that player wages must be capped at 60% of turnover but there are important definitions of both which have a major impact on that calculation.

    2. The latest audited accounts are for the year to 31 May 2024 when headline turnover was £23.2m and player wages £19.9m (86% of turnover).

    3. for this calculation, turnover includes

    a)normal matchday income, sponsorship and TV revenue
    b) any non refundable new cash introduced by the owner (i.e not loans)
    c)any profit on player sales, but only when the cash is received (many transfer fees are paid by instalments)
    d) any profits on non-matchday hospitality or facility hires


    4. For this calculation , player wages exclude

    a)wages of players out on loan covered by the club borrowing them
    b)any players under 21 as at the start of the season who came through the club`s youth development system and had been with the club for more than three years
    c) (an additional benefit for CCFC as a club just relegated from the Championship) - the wages of anyone signed before September 2024 on a three year plus contract

    As can be seen from the above there is plenty of leeway in the calculation to assist CCFC in being compliant with the rules, which are titled Salary Cap Maintenance Protocol.

    As for the headline figures involved , this carries a degree of "guestimate" as figures for the year to 31 May 2025 are not yet available.

    If an assumption is made that 2025 income and player wages were at similar levels to those in 2024 then , for this coming season basic turnover could be around £13m as it has dropped by £10m due to a reduction in the share of TV income of £8m between the Championship and League 1 and a fall of £2m in Premier League solidarity payments between the divisions. Normally this would be extremely concerning but I believe that virtually all of this ,if not all, is covered by the wages savings from all the players released when their contracts came to an end plus relegation clauses in player contracts still at the club reducing their current pay levels.

    Hopefully , this summary is helpful.
    Thanks very much for that Keith

  7. #507

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    Rumours that a number of championship clubs are keen to get Ebou Adams from Derby. Wonder if we included a sell-on clause when we sold him to them.

  8. #508

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Rumours that a number of championship clubs are keen to get Ebou Adams from Derby. Wonder if we included a sell-on clause when we sold him to them.
    Given we didn't seem to hink he was good enough for the champ at the time I don't see it. Maybe though, on football manager it was my policy to always include at least 20%

  9. #509

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Rumours that a number of championship clubs are keen to get Ebou Adams from Derby. Wonder if we included a sell-on clause when we sold him to them.
    Wasn't the sale fee rather low something like £500,000? If I remember rightly then you would think so

  10. #510

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyllisStant View Post
    As someone who works in a complex technical field I have to regularly explain to non-technical executives why things take so long and why we need x,y, and z. It's challenging for me...
    just put the steakbake in the bag 🙄

  11. #511

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    Huddersfield sign Alfie May!

    A missed opportunity. I’ve said since his Cheltenham days we should be signing him

  12. #512

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    https://x.com/kazubaggio/status/1948...767303539?s=46

    Some movement on Tsunoda…

    Hopefully this frees up some funds for BBM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamsarnie View Post
    https://x.com/kazubaggio/status/1948...767303539?s=46

    Some movement on Tsunoda…

    Hopefully this frees up some funds for BBM.
    The most efficient recruitment team in the Championship at it again

  14. #514

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamsarnie View Post
    https://x.com/kazubaggio/status/1948...767303539?s=46

    Some movement on Tsunoda…

    Hopefully this frees up some funds for BBM.
    The use of the word “release” doesn’t suggest were going to get the reported £1.5 million for him.

  15. #515

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    The most efficient recruitment team in the Championship at it again
    Now fine tuning their craft in league 1.

  16. #516

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    A name we’ve been linked with before, but I think we need a McGuinness type transfer before we can compete for someone like him.

    https://the72.co.uk/2025/07/24/derby...-conteh-chase/

  17. #517

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    The most efficient recruitment team in the Championship at it again
    Superb at turning money into nothing

  18. #518

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    Apparently we're loaning goalie Nathan Trott from Copenhagen, with an option to buy.

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  20. #520

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Apparently we're loaning goalie Nathan Trott from Copenhagen, with an option to buy.
    Looks decent - Copenhagen aren't a bad side and Wikipedia says he saved four penalties in a shootout. Could be that he wants first team football rather than the club wanting rid.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Trott

  21. #521

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Deer View Post
    Looks decent - Copenhagen aren't a bad side and Wikipedia says he saved four penalties in a shootout. Could be that he wants first team football rather than the club wanting rid.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Trott
    Wonder who'll be leaving if he does come in. There was talk that Horvath wanted to be playing at a higher level with the world cup coming up next year.

  22. #522

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    Hopefully Horvarths off.

  23. #523

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Wonder who'll be leaving if he does come in. There was talk that Horvath wanted to be playing at a higher level with the world cup coming up next year.
    Im not sure on the games ive seen him play he is upto a higher level

    always made me nervous

  24. #524

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Hopefully Horvarths off.
    Fingers crossed!

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