Reply With Quote32 Already? You make it sound like he got there faster than anyone elseOriginally Posted by Rjk
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I watched their latest podcast and he said he was asked for a prediction just after the season ended, so he was really pissed off with City at the time.
I saw another predictions podcast this morning that had five supporters of different teams giving their tables and then they went by an average to give their verdict. They had us finishing ninth, with one of them saying fourth, one tenth and the other three eleventh. The four who had us in mid table were agreed that BBM was the worst manager in the division and that seemed to be based on his spell at Rochdale and the horror stories one of them had heard from a friend of his who was a Rochdale fan - it was as if his years with Man City had never happened and he was coming here straight after leaving Rochdale.
32 Already? You make it sound like he got there faster than anyone else
Bit harsh on the "worst manager" tag; according to other previews BBM is one of the reasons why we'll end up relatively well placed. Also interesting is that Huddersfield are tipped to succeed and yet have a manager who has less experience than ours.
What do you know about his years at Man City, because i have absolutely no idea whether or not his experience there will translate into Management. That not a criticism either.
I think that we will do pretty well. We have enough players who will be good players at this level, it's the level above where they struggle. For me, it's that simple.
I've been reading the League One subreddit over the summer to see what other clubs are up to, and in that time I've seen Nahki Wells and David McGoldrick both widely lauded as excellent signings for the level.
If we'd signed either of those two, people would be going apoplectic.
So while I don't think this season will be a walk in the park, I also think a lot of our more pressimistic fans are severely overestimating the general quality of League One.
Agree completely.
Totally agree, just look at the type of players Wrexham had last season
They won their league title at least once, pretty sure it was twice, in the three years he was there. Man City had a poor season by their standards last time out, but a number of young players BBM worked with got first team experience with some looking good enough to stay there.
I’ve just looked at a predictions podcast by a Bradford fan who listed five or six of our players as being excellent by League One standards. He also thought BBM was a good appointment who would make a big impression as a coach. Therefore, my question to Vincent Tan and the Board is why do you think he had us finishing ninth in the table?
I also agree, but only to a certain degree.
When last season ended I was reasonably confident that City would have a good campaign this time around provided the right kind of reinforcements were brought in, as League One is definitely a fair bit weaker than the Championship. I didn't think we needed anything particularly spectacular in terms of new signings, but it was blatantly obvious we need a lot more steel in the side and some genuine on-field leaders throughout the team.
As it stands, we have the same players who, to quote the Racing Post, were relegated with a whimper last season, and we've lost Goutas, O'Dowda and Rinomhota. None of those players were great by Championship standards, but they would undoubtedly have been useful in League One. If they'd been replaced adequately then no worries, but they haven't been replaced at all.
I'm genuinely amazed the club hasn't signed anyone yet. On the whole, this lot lacked backbone and leadership throughout last season. League One is a considerable drop in standard, no doubt about that, but has the current squad got the necessary qualities to battle their way to promotion? I'd say that's extremely doubtful.
We'll need 120 if we keep conceding two and three every game.
I'm still concerned, it's one thing coaching elite kids, managing a very big club just relegated to League one is a completely different job.
He could be anything, we'll just have to wait and see, but I still have the Rochdale fans' comments in the back of my mind.
Why have you become so obsessed by these fan podcasts? It's bizarre. Surely a man of your intelligence realises they are completely pointless?
"we hear you"
Nothing changes apart from on the face of it the recruitment team have been sacked off also.
I think we have enough quality at this level to be comfortably mid table but I have my doubts we have found any sort of steel or leadership to win enough to be challenging.
I hope a takeover is very close and that's the reason for it, otherwise it's just negligence and another reason why Tan ultimately has to move on.
Anyway 3 nil city Saturday
People have said for years that you should read what the club we were buying a player from’s fans to get the best idea of how good and bad they are and watching podcasts by other teams supporters is similar to that. In particular, we’re going to be playing in a division we’ve not been in for twenty two years this season and I’m not sure any City fan who claims that they know exactly what to expect in the upcoming weeks is right to do so - i certainly don’t and so am interested to see what supporters of clubs who have spent the last few seasons at this level think of it.
There’s also the fact that I like watching some of them because they’re made by people who know what they’re talking about.
But that's a completely different role to being a manager and in charge of senior players, almost in every respect as most of them have developed or matured as players, got into bad habits etc. Young players are at a different stage of development on almost every level. For what it's worth, I have a good feeling about BBM, it looks like he's got a plan, isn't going to allow players to rest on the pitch, demands work rate on and off the ball and is prepared to play higher up the pitch, and he's looking at young professionals as well, although he doesn't have much choice to be honest.
I don’t think the two things are comparable. People attempting to assess a player’s ability or character by reading the comments made about him by a range of fans at his former club is quite different to someone watching and endorsing streams of wannabee pundits making predictions from the comfort of their bedrooms or living rooms.
You say some of these people know what they’re talking about – in reality, what could a Bradford City fan possibly know about Cardiff City’s players? When would he have seen our mob play?
With all due respect, you appear to have plunged down a bit of rabbit hole in recent times. Whether you’re giving undue credence to Si’s never-ending gibberish on his mind-numbing podcast, or posting clips of a juvenile City fan swearing at matches, or highlighting the predictions of amateur broadcasters in their bedrooms, a lot of your contributions these days seem to revolve around YouTube. I don’t really understand what’s going on as I’m sure you weren’t doing this stuff until fairly recently.
Still, it could be worse I suppose. At least you haven’t resorted to AI yet.
Welcome back!
So, i’m not behaving like you think I should, I think I can live with that. Did you hear that story this morning about You Tube now being the second most watched media outlet in the UK behind the BBC?
No, I didn't. Do you think that news somehow validates all the bedroom pundits, wannabee broadcasters and swearing kids?
Not sure it is really, he was in charge of a group of players contesting a league and he was successful at it. I accept that he’s working with cynical old pros now who might not take to his methods as readily as youngsters making their way in the game might, but I would have thought man management of a group of say, 18 to 24 year olds is not too different from a bunch of 25 to 30 year olds.
I accept that you’re going to get a broad spectrum of abilities when it comes to videos on any given subject on You Tube, but, at the top end you can get stuff that is more informed, balanced and better researched than comparable stuff on TV channels. When it comes to the videos I’ve seen on You Tube about how League One will finish up, I think I’ve watched some people who could eventually go on to work on mainstream media channels if they chose to go down that route in the future.
You're undoubtedly correct as there are just so many of them. Given the fact that literally anybody, anywhere can set up a podcast or a YouTube channel if they so desire, the law of averages dictates that some of those people will eventually work in the mainstream media. But that doesn't mean the vast majority of amateur 'content' on YouTube is anything other than garbage.
I agree, some of the stuff on League One I’ve watched have been rubbish, but you can learn from the best of them. In the main, I’ve only posted links to what I’d say are the better, most watched presenters.
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