Chambers captain, R Colwill vice

[Tuerto]

There was a good discussion on this a few weeks ago on TalkSPORT, The strong leader captains like your John Terry and Roy Keane are a thing of the past,
The games changed, young players these days dont respond to being shouted at and dug out by the captain. Danny Murphy said when he was a young player Paul Ince had him by the throat at half time in one game, He said that would never work these days.

Yup, i would agree, those days are long gone. HR would have to work weekends dealing with the number of complaints......

[J R Hartley]

Yup, i would agree, those days are long gone. HR would have to work weekends dealing with the number of complaints......

Murphy made the point about the game being less physical too. He said your Keanes and Bryan Robson would pick ball up and drive forward with it to draw a foul and get the crowd up, or clatter into someone themselves and maybe take a yellow. Cant run the risk these days as could end up being sent off.

Simon Jordan made the valid point that your strong apha male types, shouting and cajoling, in the ref’s face, in the oppositions face, even in their own team mates face are now seen as aggressive and in a very negative way. He blames society for being so soft that people with strong opinions like himself are seen as aggressive rather than assertive,

[Tuerto]

Murphy made the point about the game being less physical too. He said your Keanes and Bryan Robson would pick ball up and drive forward with it to draw a foul and get the crowd up, or clatter into someone themselves and maybe take a yellow. Cant run the risk these days as could end up being sent off.

Simon Jordan made the valid point that your strong apha male types, shouting and cajoling, in the refÂ’s face, in the oppositions face, even in their own team mates face are now seen as aggressive and in a very negative way. He blames society for being so soft that people with strong opinions like himself are seen as aggressive rather than assertive,

It's a minefield. Things have definitely changed though. No doubt there was plenty of bullying going on back in the day, well there was, even us on here would have experienced it as youngsters in the work place, although i don't mind people fronting things up and i have no problem with being told about myself when needed, as long as it's fair.

[Crisp White Lines]

I think these days the captain’s role is to ensure the manager/coach’s plan is executed out on the pitch.

He should be reminding team mates, cajoling, encouraging, directing….

With Chambers I hope it is not just his age that has led to the decision. But who the hell else is there?

[the other bob wilson]

Murphy made the point about the game being less physical too. He said your Keanes and Bryan Robson would pick ball up and drive forward with it to draw a foul and get the crowd up, or clatter into someone themselves and maybe take a yellow. Cant run the risk these days as could end up being sent off.

Simon Jordan made the valid point that your strong apha male types, shouting and cajoling, in the ref’s face, in the oppositions face, even in their own team mates face are now seen as aggressive and in a very negative way. He blames society for being so soft that people with strong opinions like himself are seen as aggressive rather than assertive,

If it's not worth risking a yellow through a Keane/Robson type foul, I'm assuming that our players were only pulling back Notts County players who got the wrong side of them last week because they knew they were unlikely to get booked in a pre season match because we were doing that all over the pitch last weekend. I like what BBM is trying to do with the team and really enjoyed the QPR game, but I mentioned in my blog piece last weekend, the one thing I'm not keen on at the moment is the Man City type fouling when one of our players takes an opponent out so cynically.

[John Buchanan]

Yup, i would agree, those days are long gone. HR would have to work weekends dealing with the number of complaints......

From my experience, you would be hard-pushed to get anyone from HR to work weekdays, let alone weekends. Usually to be found taking much needed "me time" away from the office to care for their well-being.

[Hilts]

I dont really think it matters who is captain though you need leaders and character which is something this squad doesn't have. Or very little.

My concern is BBM seems to have Chambers as a starter which is worrying and even more so if its at CB.

[PhyllisStant]

no number 4, 8 or 9 in the squad.

Is it too optimistic to think that's because we're getting in a quality centre back, midfielder and a striker.

[J R Hartley]

Well I think today showed we are seriously lacking in leader types. Apart from Wintle there was no-one you could say was leading the rest.

Personally I thought our centre half’s were our two worst players , closely followed by the two wingers. We will get punished against better opposition.

[J R Hartley]

no number 4, 8 or 9 in the squad.

Is it too optimistic to think that's because we're getting in a quality centre back, midfielder and a striker.

Salah is our number 9 in everything except jersey number. We seriously need a 4 and an 8 thought.

[Moodybluebird]

Salah is our number 9 in everything except jersey number. We seriously need a 4 and an 8 thought.

Wow, when did we sign him ?!

[the other bob wilson]

Interesting comments from BBM after the game, it seems the captaincy and vice captaincy were decided.by a players vote.

[Natman Blue]

I think these days the captain’s role is to ensure the manager/coach’s plan is executed out on the pitch.

He should be reminding team mates, cajoling, encouraging, directing….

With Chambers I hope it is not just his age that has led to the decision. But who the hell else is there?

i thought Rubin was excellent at doing that today!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Salah is our number 9 in everything except jersey number. We seriously need a 4 and an 8 thought.

Robertson will be the 8