How long before Trott gets caught with the ball ???

[the other bob wilson]

First thing to say is that I wouldn't have signed another keeper if I were manager. To my mind, Alnwick is good enough for this division and Turner looked good enough in the one game he played. However, three unbeaten games in, plus a pretty successful pre season programme, and it's clear that the BBM overhaul of the way we play is a very thorough one and so I'm not as surprised now that he wanted to bring in his own man as I was when it was first mooted.

As for Trott, no one can say how good a shot stopper he is because, for all that people like me moan about our defending, he's not had a serious save to make yet in the two matches he's played - he had no chance with the goal he conceded.The name Ryan Allsop came up in this thread, I was never much of a fan of his, but that was because I thought he wasn't great at shot stopping. As for his ability with the ball at his feet, I can. recall him getting caught out once or twice over what was close to a full season he played for us, but, from memory, that part of his game never cost us a goal. Therefore, if Trott turns out to be as good as Allsop with the ball at his feet and is a better shot stopper than him, I'll have no problem with him as our first choice through this season.

It was interesting to hear BBM say after the Swindon game that we didn't play it long to Salech enough after he came on - his reasoning was that, by doing that a few times, Swindon might have had second thoughts about committing so fully to a high pressing game in the second half. That sounds fair enough to me and hardly suggests that it is play it out from the back at all costs under BBM.

[Hilts]

I think we are overpassing it at the back and no doubt there will be slip ups.

However the attempts at the passing game are clearly better than the timid attempts of the likes of Steve Morison. Balls are being switched out wide and the play spread. Even in the poor Port Vale display we managed this only for the ball to be wasted by our wide players.

We are also not sitting back and holding onto leads. Full backs are trying to get forward. Bagan had a shot inside the box in the closing stages.

If we improve with the system I think it will be at least far entertaining than the last few seasons.

I very much doubt we have the players to challenge at the top end but thats not on the manager or system.

On Trott ill judge him on his ability to stop shots and command his box.

So far hes barely had anything to do.

[splott parker]

To an extent, but it’s overkill on the negativity, and getting worse.
Do you ever wonder why this MB and others are made up of less than 1% of the clubs fan base?
At a wild guess, I’d say it’s because 99% of fans just go to the games, have a moan or celebrate with a few pints after the game, then go home and forget it all till the next game.
On MB’ it’s forensic analysis after every incident in a game, then every day till the next game. It’s getting to the stage on here now, where wins are getting criticised.

Yeah, I go with someone who just takes it game to game, doesn’t bother with ‘midweek madness’ on the internet. But we’re all different and you replying to me and me replying to you, very amicably I may add, is the crux of messageboards I reckon. We’ve had far worse melodramatic meltdowns on here in the past than a discussion about the pluses & minuses of overplaying at the back. Long my the differing opinions continue I say, keeps the messageboard going.

[William Treseder]

Yeah, I go with someone who just takes it game to game, doesn’t bother with ‘midweek madness’ on the internet. But we’re all different and you replying to me and me replying to you, very amicably I may add, is the crux of messageboards I reckon. We’ve had far worse melodramatic meltdowns on here in the past than a discussion about the pluses & minuses of overplaying at the back. Long my the differing opinions continue I say, keeps the messageboard going.

Keep the message boards going, but let’s have more humour, and topics on Cardiff and the surrounding areas
After all, if City finish top or bottom this season, our lives will go on , and the stalwarts will still turn up next yr. 👍

[Tuerto]

First thing to say is that I wouldn't have signed another keeper if I were manager. To my mind, Alnwick is good enough for this division and Turner looked good enough in the one game he played. However, three unbeaten games in, plus a pretty successful pre season programme, and it's clear that the BBM overhaul of the way we play is a very thorough one and so I'm not as surprised now that he wanted to bring in his own man as I was when it was first mooted.

As for Trott, no one can say how good a shot stopper he is because, for all that people like me moan about our defending, he's not had a serious save to make yet in the two matches he's played - he had no chance with the goal he conceded.The name Ryan Allsop came up in this thread, I was never much of a fan of his, but that was because I thought he wasn't great at shot stopping. As for his ability with the ball at his feet, I can. recall him getting caught out once or twice over what was close to a full season he played for us, but, from memory, that part of his game never cost us a goal. Therefore, if Trott turns out to be as good as Allsop with the ball at his feet and is a better shot stopper than him, I'll have no problem with him as our first choice through this season.

It was interesting to hear BBM say after the Swindon game that we didn't play it long to Salech enough after he came on - his reasoning was that, by doing that a few times, Swindon might have had second thoughts about committing so fully to a high pressing game in the second half. That sounds fair enough to me and hardly suggests that it is play it out from the back at all costs under BBM.

You alluded to it, But i feel that bringing in his own man in goal is one of BBM's biggest decisions, and it's a decision that i believe he had to take. It seems to me that he wants players who he can programme into a style of play, and getting a goalkeeper early on is probably the best way of doing it. I think that we can all see what he's trying to do, he did go long ball out for the last 15 minutes against Swindon, so maybe the players needed to think on their feet and do it without being instructed to do so, although who knows whether they have that privilege.

I'm pretty convinced that we will do well this season once we can adapt to opposing sides getting physical with us and playing high in order to stop us playing out and drawing them in. My concern was the shape and distance the midfield were from the defence during the 2nd half against Swindon, and how easily Swindon drove through it. Luckily for us, Swindon lacked quality in the final third or took the wron options, same as Port Vale did, and it's that lack of quality and my belief that most of our players are better footballers than the majority of this division that i i think we'll do alright.

[G rangetown Blue]

I said to my mate at PV, “how long before some of our fans start moaning about Trott keeping hold of the ball”…..a few would much rather it was lumped into Row Z !

[Dave Blue]

I said to my mate at PV, “how long before some of our fans start moaning about Trott keeping hold of the ball”…..a few would much rather it was lumped into Row Z !

Far better than getting robbed on the edge of your own box. Can’t remember which game it was but he actually passed to someone who had 2 players on their back 20 yards out. I’m all for keeping the ball if it’s for a constructive reason but there’s no need for this high risk stuff.

[BLUETIT]

We appear to have a keeper who’s half decent with his feet. A bit of a maverick as well. Remember those kinda players?
Wow! Shock! Horror!
FFS. Folk are starting panic threads on here just for the sake of it now.

It’s not a “panic thread”, it’s a legitimate question !

If you noticed the time that the “question”, was put, you would notice it was just after the Sheffield United keeper got caught at Birmingham.

That’s why there are “question marks”, after the words, as it’s a question not a panic thread !

Be honest with yourself, every time the ball gets passed back, people’s brain automatically goes into “what’s going to happen, mode”

It’s why people watch formula 1, for the crashes !!!!

[Porth Pouncer]

He is a converted left back, and a player that uses his feet more than his hands is what BBM wants.

Mmm...dont we need a left back? and put turner in goal.

We can then have an extra outfield player on the bench too

[William Treseder]

It’s not a “panic thread”, it’s a legitimate question !

If you noticed the time that the “question”, was put, you would notice it was just after the Sheffield United keeper got caught at Birmingham.

That’s why there are “question marks”, after the words, as it’s a question not a panic thread !

Be honest with yourself, every time the ball gets passed back, people’s brain automatically goes into “what’s going to happen, mode”

It’s why people watch formula 1, for the crashes !!!!

So you watch the City waiting for mistakes?
That’s novel 👍

[Heathblue]

I’m starting to get the feeling lots on here can’t wait for falls and will wollow in them.

Panicans Bill
But for balance, every team team in the league wants to be Man Citeh for some reason

[dandywarhol]

We only need two keepers.We,ve got NG & Bagan does a good impression of a keeper that save against Leeds was special.

[Grangenders]

We could have the two best goalkeepers in the world in goal at the same time and I’d still be nervous watching a back pass! Just don’t pass it on target is all I ask for!

[G rangetown Blue]

As opposed to lumping it back to the opposition, who gain possession, move up the field….and score.