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    Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    He is the first sitting MP to do this.

    First of several perhaps?

    Not only was he their Welfare spokesman, he also ran Jenricks leadership campaign.

    Cue Rats deserting sinking ship remarks!

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Lock 'im up!

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Eton and Oxbridge educated. Should fit right in with the anti-globalists on here!

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    He is the first sitting MP to do this.

    First of several perhaps?

    Not only was he their Welfare spokesman, he also ran Jenricks leadership campaign.

    Cue Rats deserting sinking ship remarks!

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Kruger is one of a few Tory MPs who will be much more at home in the Farage club. In the last Parliament he did a double act with Miriam Cates that was basically MAGA in the UK.

    She lost her seat. He may well have calculated this is the best way to avoid following her to the dole queue but it is more likely to be driven by ideology and a deep infatuation with Trump.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Kruger is one of a few Tory MPs who will be much more at home in the Farage club. In the last Parliament he did a double act with Miriam Cates that was basically MAGA in the UK.

    She lost her seat. He may well have calculated this is the best way to avoid following her to the dole queue but it is more likely to be driven by ideology and a deep infatuation with Trump.
    I think as with Andrea Jenkins et al we are witnessing a peeling away of the UKIP faithfull who infiltrated the Tory party during the Brexit debate in an attempt to dramatically alter the party's ethos and direction while utilising it's prominent political status which they could never have achieved themselves.

    The UKIP faithfull developed a stranglehold on the Tory party and became so powerful they eventually destroyed and drove out the One Nation wing of the party. The rest is history of course. The Tories are beginning to resemble the internal crush of a dying star with the inevitable explosion soon to come.

    It's not surprising these far right former Tories are joining Farage; his party is their natural home and of course they are desperately keen to join the bandwagon.

    However the battle at the end may well be decided by just how many One Nation types also abandon the Tories and help coalesce a multi coloured electoral force specifically focused on stopping Farage from ever gaining power.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I think as with Andrea Jenkins et al we are witnessing a peeling away of the UKIP faithfull who infiltrated the Tory party during the Brexit debate in an attempt to dramatically alter the party's ethos and direction while utilising it's prominent political status which they could never have achieved themselves.

    The UKIP faithfull developed a stranglehold on the Tory party and became so powerful they eventually destroyed and drove out the One Nation wing of the party. The rest is history of course. The Tories are beginning to resemble the internal crush of a dying star with the inevitable explosion soon to come.

    It's not surprising these far right former Tories are joining Farage; his party is their natural home and of course they are desperately keen to join the bandwagon.

    However the battle at the end may well be decided by just how many One Nation types also abandon the Tories and help coalesce a multi coloured electoral force specifically focused on stopping Farage from ever gaining power.
    This multi coloured electoral force will I assume consist of labour, your party , lib dems , greens , Plaid, snp

    Thats very romantic but I think this pathetic bickering will just hand a right wing reform the keys to power

    Party discipline is bad enough in all parties at times but imagine Plaid whittering on about independence when we are trying to defeat reform

    I coukdnt care who I vote for as long as they are the best candidate to defeat a reform one

    Thats essentially what has to be worked on ..and very quickly here in Wales

    What are eluned Morgan and Plaid throwing punches at each other or the tories when the elephant of racism is staring them in the face

    Useless , completely hopeless

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    This multi coloured electoral force will I assume consist of labour, your party , lib dems , greens , Plaid, snp

    Thats very romantic but I think this pathetic bickering will just hand a right wing reform the keys to power

    Party discipline is bad enough in all parties at times but imagine Plaid whittering on about independence when we are trying to defeat reform

    I coukdnt care who I vote for as long as they are the best candidate to defeat a reform one

    Thats essentially what has to be worked on ..and very quickly here in Wales

    What are eluned Morgan and Plaid throwing punches at each other or the tories when the elephant of racism is staring them in the face

    Useless , completely hopeless
    Yes I know you believe it will have to be just one party which will beat Reform to the post in a two way fight but I really don't think that's going to happen. Even if Labour had a dynamic, unashamedly progressive and inspirational leader (which they clearly don't) Farage has manoeuvred himself into a strong position.

    I think only organised and concerted tactical voting keeps him away from power.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Get Steve Baker, Mark Francois over there, and the best of the European research group; the Tories are finished. Badanock is useless.

    Farage will need people who know what needs to be done.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Get Steve Baker, Mark Francois over there, and the best of the European research group; the Tories are finished. Badanock is useless.

    Farage will need people who know what needs to be done.
    Francois?

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Francois?
    Aye, he winds your lot up a treat and always gets elected, make him secretary for leftie windups

    Steve Baker is good; give him a big job.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Francois?
    Biggest prick I think I've ever seen in the Tory party, though he's a miniscule little toad in every other way. Hed fit in well with Reform.

    I remember with fondness his televised spat with Will Self during the Brexit referendum period: he was absolutely shredded and scuttled off abjectly with his (tiny) tail between his legs 😭

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Biggest prick I think I've ever seen on the Tory party. Hed fit in well with Reform. I remember with fondness his televised spat with Will Self during the Brexit voting: he was absolutely shredded and scuttled off abjectly with his (tiny) tail between his legs ��
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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
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    Oh he never wound me up. He was just a joke of a figure who always provided entertainment in a Norman Wisdom kind of way.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Oh he never wound me up. He was just a joke of a figure who always provided entertainment in a Norman Wisdom kind of way.
    Sounds like he already has

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Sounds like he already has
    No it's just that you can't read properly! No work today?

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    No it's just that you can't read properly! No work today?
    Multi tasking

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Multi tasking
    Good lad, my faith in you wasnt misplaced 🫣

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Aye, he winds your lot up a treat and always gets elected, make him secretary for leftie windups

    Steve Baker is good; give him a big job.
    Francois is a clown and certainly doesn’t wind me up - I would have thought my last message made that clear. There was a time when I would have said the same about Baker, but I’ve been quite impressed by some of the things I’ve heard from him since Brexit - would never vote for him, but I’ve got a degree of respect for him that I’ll never have for Francois.

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    Re: Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Francois is a clown and certainly doesn’t wind me up - I would have thought my last message made that clear. There was a time when I would have said the same about Baker, but I’ve been quite impressed by some of the things I’ve heard from him since Brexit - would never vote for him, but I’ve got a degree of respect for him that I’ll never have for Francois.
    We agree on that, really. Baker seems decent and would be an asset, and Francois is a bit of a WUM, I think.

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