Conservative MP Danny Kruger defects to Reform

[Elwood Blues]

He is the first sitting MP to do this.

First of several perhaps?

Not only was he their Welfare spokesman, he also ran Jenricks leadership campaign.

Cue Rats deserting sinking ship remarks!

[Wales-Bales]

Lock 'im up!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Eton and Oxbridge educated. Should fit right in with the anti-globalists on here!

[Heathblue]

He is the first sitting MP to do this.

First of several perhaps?

Not only was he their Welfare spokesman, he also ran Jenricks leadership campaign.

Cue Rats deserting sinking ship remarks!

Wow, phone blowing up!

Stampede off the sinking ship has begun.

Lifeboats are *very* limited!

— Zia Yusuf (@ZiaYusufUK) September 15, 2025

[jon1959]

Kruger is one of a few Tory MPs who will be much more at home in the Farage club. In the last Parliament he did a double act with Miriam Cates that was basically MAGA in the UK.

She lost her seat. He may well have calculated this is the best way to avoid following her to the dole queue but it is more likely to be driven by ideology and a deep infatuation with Trump.

[Dorcus]

Kruger is one of a few Tory MPs who will be much more at home in the Farage club. In the last Parliament he did a double act with Miriam Cates that was basically MAGA in the UK.

She lost her seat. He may well have calculated this is the best way to avoid following her to the dole queue but it is more likely to be driven by ideology and a deep infatuation with Trump.

I think as with Andrea Jenkins et al we are witnessing a peeling away of the UKIP faithfull who infiltrated the Tory party during the Brexit debate in an attempt to dramatically alter the party's ethos and direction while utilising it's prominent political status which they could never have achieved themselves.

The UKIP faithfull developed a stranglehold on the Tory party and became so powerful they eventually destroyed and drove out the One Nation wing of the party. The rest is history of course. The Tories are beginning to resemble the internal crush of a dying star with the inevitable explosion soon to come.

It's not surprising these far right former Tories are joining Farage; his party is their natural home and of course they are desperately keen to join the bandwagon.

However the battle at the end may well be decided by just how many One Nation types also abandon the Tories and help coalesce a multi coloured electoral force specifically focused on stopping Farage from ever gaining power.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think as with Andrea Jenkins et al we are witnessing a peeling away of the UKIP faithfull who infiltrated the Tory party during the Brexit debate in an attempt to dramatically alter the party's ethos and direction while utilising it's prominent political status which they could never have achieved themselves.

The UKIP faithfull developed a stranglehold on the Tory party and became so powerful they eventually destroyed and drove out the One Nation wing of the party. The rest is history of course. The Tories are beginning to resemble the internal crush of a dying star with the inevitable explosion soon to come.

It's not surprising these far right former Tories are joining Farage; his party is their natural home and of course they are desperately keen to join the bandwagon.

However the battle at the end may well be decided by just how many One Nation types also abandon the Tories and help coalesce a multi coloured electoral force specifically focused on stopping Farage from ever gaining power.

This multi coloured electoral force will I assume consist of labour, your party , lib dems , greens , Plaid, snp

Thats very romantic but I think this pathetic bickering will just hand a right wing reform the keys to power

Party discipline is bad enough in all parties at times but imagine Plaid whittering on about independence when we are trying to defeat reform

I coukdnt care who I vote for as long as they are the best candidate to defeat a reform one

Thats essentially what has to be worked on ..and very quickly here in Wales

What are eluned Morgan and Plaid throwing punches at each other or the tories when the elephant of racism is staring them in the face

Useless , completely hopeless

[Dorcus]

This multi coloured electoral force will I assume consist of labour, your party , lib dems , greens , Plaid, snp

Thats very romantic but I think this pathetic bickering will just hand a right wing reform the keys to power

Party discipline is bad enough in all parties at times but imagine Plaid whittering on about independence when we are trying to defeat reform

I coukdnt care who I vote for as long as they are the best candidate to defeat a reform one

Thats essentially what has to be worked on ..and very quickly here in Wales

What are eluned Morgan and Plaid throwing punches at each other or the tories when the elephant of racism is staring them in the face

Useless , completely hopeless

Yes I know you believe it will have to be just one party which will beat Reform to the post in a two way fight but I really don't think that's going to happen. Even if Labour had a dynamic, unashamedly progressive and inspirational leader (which they clearly don't) Farage has manoeuvred himself into a strong position.

I think only organised and concerted tactical voting keeps him away from power.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Get Steve Baker, Mark Francois over there, and the best of the European research group; the Tories are finished. Badanock is useless.

Farage will need people who know what needs to be done.

[the other bob wilson]

Get Steve Baker, Mark Francois over there, and the best of the European research group; the Tories are finished. Badanock is useless.

Farage will need people who know what needs to be done.

Francois?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Francois?

Aye, he winds your lot up a treat and always gets elected, make him secretary for leftie windups

Steve Baker is good; give him a big job.

[Dorcus]

Francois?

Biggest prick I think I've ever seen in the Tory party, though he's a miniscule little toad in every other way. Hed fit in well with Reform.

I remember with fondness his televised spat with Will Self during the Brexit referendum period: he was absolutely shredded and scuttled off abjectly with his (tiny) tail between his legs 😭

[North Cardiff Blue]

Biggest prick I think I've ever seen on the Tory party. Hed fit in well with Reform. I remember with fondness his televised spat with Will Self during the Brexit voting: he was absolutely shredded and scuttled off abjectly with his (tiny) tail between his legs ��

See

[Dorcus]

See

Oh he never wound me up. He was just a joke of a figure who always provided entertainment in a Norman Wisdom kind of way.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Oh he never wound me up. He was just a joke of a figure who always provided entertainment in a Norman Wisdom kind of way.

Sounds like he already has

[Dorcus]

Sounds like he already has

No it's just that you can't read properly! No work today?

[North Cardiff Blue]

No it's just that you can't read properly! No work today?

Multi tasking

[Dorcus]

Multi tasking

Good lad, my faith in you wasnt misplaced 🫣

[the other bob wilson]

Aye, he winds your lot up a treat and always gets elected, make him secretary for leftie windups

Steve Baker is good; give him a big job.

Francois is a clown and certainly doesn’t wind me up - I would have thought my last message made that clear. There was a time when I would have said the same about Baker, but I’ve been quite impressed by some of the things I’ve heard from him since Brexit - would never vote for him, but I’ve got a degree of respect for him that I’ll never have for Francois.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Francois is a clown and certainly doesn’t wind me up - I would have thought my last message made that clear. There was a time when I would have said the same about Baker, but I’ve been quite impressed by some of the things I’ve heard from him since Brexit - would never vote for him, but I’ve got a degree of respect for him that I’ll never have for Francois.

We agree on that, really. Baker seems decent and would be an asset, and Francois is a bit of a WUM, I think.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yes I know you believe it will have to be just one party which will beat Reform to the post in a two way fight but I really don't think that's going to happen. Even if Labour had a dynamic, unashamedly progressive and inspirational leader (which they clearly don't) Farage has manoeuvred himself into a strong position.

I think only organised and concerted tactical voting keeps him away from power.

The only way to defeat reform is to stop pissing about , do a deal between labour , Plaid, snp , lib dem , greens and stand one candidate in each seat as the unifying candidate v the nasties ....in other words .....this is what you need to do to keep out reform......now get out and vote

The mathematics with your party now nosing in just dont add up

[JamesWales]

The only way to defeat reform is to stop pissing about , do a deal between labour , Plaid, snp , lib dem , greens and stand one candidate in each seat as the unifying candidate v the nasties ....in other words .....this is what you need to do to keep out reform......now get out and vote

The mathematics with your party now nosing in just dont add up

I think you may be overestimating how appealing a "More of the same please!" vs. "Reform" choice would be. And the parties you mention are profoundly different. SNP would only agree on the basis of another referendum. Likely Plaid too. Labour and Greens totally apart on industrial and tax policies and only share some loose social and cultural ties between the Labour left and the Greens. Lib Dems are a proud major party in their own right with a tonne of voters who don't want to lend a vote to Labour, Greens or SNP. Then you have to agree which candidates stand down where and get all the prospective candidates to agree!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think you may be overestimating how appealing a "More of the same please!" vs. "Reform" choice would be. And the parties you mention are profoundly different. SNP would only agree on the basis of another referendum. Likely Plaid too. Labour and Greens totally apart on industrial and tax policies and only share some loose social and cultural ties between the Labour left and the Greens. Lib Dems are a proud major party in their own right with a tonne of voters who don't want to lend a vote to Labour, Greens or SNP. Then you have to agree which candidates stand down where and get all the prospective candidates to agree!

I dont think anyone is interested in trying to persuade reform voters back , I have attended a multi party focus group on the threat of reform and whilst a few well meaning bods from the various parties emphasised all this cosy canvassing nonsense to try and get reformers to switch back it was generally agreed that was a waste of time

At the recent barry by election Plaid and labour both stood and predictably although Plaid pulled some votes from labour .....it wasn't a growth of nationalism ! ....as people tactically voted to beat reform .....unfortunately reform still won ....albeit with a very slim margin

Labour shouldn't have stood ....Aled Blake , CCFC fan saw a big drop in labour votes but if labour had openly supported an alternative candidate ...in this case Plaid.....reform would have been defeated

Plaid , SNP , lib dems , greens and all the parties except Reform need more than ever to work for the greater good and stop reform

If they dont ideals like some sort of independence , green taxes etc can be forgotten about for eternity with Nigel and his mates in