Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Sure. Are you also saying though that Hamas bears zero responsibility for the state of the Gaza strip and the tens of thousands of deaths?
Don't shoot the messenger but reports abound that the Oct 7 attacks were organised and orchestrated by the Israelis. I'm not suggesting that is true for a moment (I would have expected very loud protestations of innocence by Hamas at the time at the very least so I'm not entirely convinced of this). However I have zero faith in the Israelis so I maintain anything is possible. I can certainly see the strategic benefit in perpetrating such an atrocious attack.

I only mention this to illustrate there are many many nuances and complications to this situation and, as our friend Bill has said quite rightly, most of us will back one side or the other in this wretched business. However, in fairness to Sludge he has ventured the most salient question of all, how would any one of us feel if our land had been usurped by a superior foreign military occupation and we were placed under subjugation and confinement in sorry conditions?

There is enough to suggest in Welsh history that rebellion would be ever present even though we as an ethnic group never suffered anything like the level of abuse the poor Palestinians have had to endure.