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Thread: What has happened to our early season style of play?

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    What has happened to our early season style of play?

    After the first few games, there were a few posts on here from people who had been following the City for 50+ years, saying it was up there with the best ever football they'd witnessed by a Cardiff team.
    The passing was crisp and accurate, with attacking intention.
    Yes, we were lacking a cutting edge at No 9, but the attacking midfielders...notably Ruben, were more than making up for that.
    We rode our luck with a few of the wins, but with Trott performing miracles, we were setting a standard for this league.
    It seems now that we have lost the tag of being the team to be feared.
    Indeed, we have been outplayed by a succession of ' lower ' teams.
    Maybe after the Bradford defeat , opposition managers and coaches have realised that we have a weak underbelly throughout the team, and set up to dominate our midfield and control the game.
    After the Rotherham trouncing ( we should have gone for thr jugular and scored six or seven...they were awful ), and maybe the Plymouth win, we've been sussed.
    We started the season by making the CCS a fortress...but we have now become a bang average side at home, who are vulnerable to say the least.
    Was our early scintillating form, actually built on sand?

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Top of the league and another negative thread. This place is getting beyond, both in terms of trying to get on here and then the negativity when you do get on here.

    God help we actually lose a couple of games or drop down to 5th or 6th.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    In all honesty = how we beat Orient and Reading is beyond belief, but we did and the tide will turn so the points in the bag are much needed. Our luck will run out but if you win when playing badly it cannot be too awful.

    Objective is to get back to the Championship asap

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Top of the league and another negative thread. This place is getting beyond, both in terms of trying to get on here and then the negativity when you do get on here.

    God help we actually lose a couple of games or drop down to 5th or 6th.
    Do you actually watch games?

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
    Do you actually watch games?
    Yes

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    I think it's more a case of teams just realising we are quite susceptible if they go balls out at us, press high, attack in numbers just have a bloody good go.

    People said Burton is the blueprint others will copy but I think Wigan and Rotherham were our most comfortable matches and they pretty much did that. On most days despite being a bit lacklustre we also beat Burton.

    I can't confidently say more often than not we beat Bradford, Orient or even Reading.

    But despite that we are top so are doing something right, we have that bit of quality at times, the winning goal was a superb move.

    Missing some steel in midfield for these types of games which are just far too open for us to be able to have any control over.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    How is coming from behind multiple times throughout the season and being top of the league having "soft underbelly?"

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    I think we are all delighted that we're winning and currently sit on top of the league but at the same time, we can all see that by allowing the opposition so many chances to score in every home game, sooner or later we will pay for it. That is a reality not negativity.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    One thing we did well at the start of the season was win back possession very quickly. The intensity and cohesion of our press seems to have disappeared, or perhaps our fitness was very good in the first few matches and the other teams have now caught up.

    As others have said, we don't win first balls (we often don't even challenge for 50/50s) and rarely win loose/second balls. On a few occasions yesterday Reading hoofed the ball aimlessly up in the air in a sort of garryowen, confident they would win possession further down the pitch, and we didn't look entirely comfortable dealing with those.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by D. Advocaat View Post
    One thing we did well at the start of the season was win back possession very quickly. The intensity and cohesion of our press seems to have disappeared, or perhaps our fitness was very good in the first few matches and the other teams have now caught up.

    As others have said, we don't win first balls (we often don't even challenge for 50/50s) and rarely win loose/second balls. On a few occasions yesterday Reading hoofed the ball aimlessly up in the air in a sort of garryowen, confident they would win possession further down the pitch, and we didn't look entirely comfortable dealing with those.
    I was reminded yesterday of some of the games we had in the dungeon division. We did it as often as some of our opponents.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle anyone?

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    other teams have worked us out, they can play a very high line and force us to play all the football in our half, and we don't have the pace to get in behind and hurt them.
    we need a change in tactics or this will detail our season before long.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    other teams have worked us out, they can play a very high line and force us to play all the football in our half, and we don't have the pace to get in behind and hurt them.
    we need a change in tactics or this will detail our season before long.
    It wont derail our season, i'm certain of that, very confident. It's plain to see that the standard of play when the pressure is on is absolutely abysmal in this division, shocking stuff. We have a few players who have that little bit more quality in the right areas, they're not great, but enough to get us out of this division. How many teams have we played against now who just can't finish or put us away like Bradford did? quite a few by my reckoning. That will be the difference from what i have seen, and i'll take it, for now.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    other teams have worked us out, they can play a very high line and force us to play all the football in our half, and we don't have the pace to get in behind and hurt them.
    we need a change in tactics or this will detail our season before long.
    Agree.
    Murphy has to change things.
    Our first half displays have been underwhelming lately.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    Agree.
    Murphy has to change things.
    Our first half displays have been underwhelming lately.
    when we go behind we start to go a little more direct and we look a lot more threatening

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    when we go behind we start to go a little more direct and we look a lot more threatening
    I know that
    You know that
    ...but we don't pick the first half team...

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    To be where we are after the squad turnover is a blessing. Getting rid of a lot of deadweight and given the youngsters a chance has been so refreshing. With that said we look really unbalanced in midfield and that link between the defence and attack has looked our weakness. Thought we missed wintle yesterday. Not sure what's going on with Robertson but feel like we're missing that sort of player at the moment. Hopefully we can strengthen in January.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Top of the league and another negative thread. This place is getting beyond, both in terms of trying to get on here and then the negativity when you do get on here.

    God help we actually lose a couple of games or drop down to 5th or 6th.
    I mean, the expectations are for us to walk this league, especially given Luton and Plymouth haven't really made it out of the gates and Huddersfield have underperformed. Our competition this season are two League One mid-table stalwarts in Stevenage and Lincoln, and a League 2 promoted team in Bradford. I actually urged people to calm down after the Bradford loss, but the Burton loss was just flat-out awful and we haven't looked comfortable since the game against Wigan I'd argue.

    The culprits for relegation (manager and suspect players) have pretty much been resolved now, and we should have everything to be a mid-level Championship team. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but there are high expectations for a reason, given how we really shouldn't have been as horrendously awful as we were last season.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    I mean, the expectations are for us to walk this league, especially given Luton and Plymouth haven't really made it out of the gates and Huddersfield have underperformed. Our competition this season are two League One mid-table stalwarts in Stevenage and Lincoln, and a League 2 promoted team in Bradford. I actually urged people to calm down after the Bradford loss, but the Burton loss was just flat-out awful and we haven't looked comfortable since the game against Wigan I'd argue.

    The culprits for relegation (manager and suspect players) have pretty much been resolved now, and we should have everything to be a mid-level Championship team. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but there are high expectations for a reason, given how we really shouldn't have been as horrendously awful as we were last season.
    A large chunk of the fanbase were predicting mid table or worse in the summer, we weren't any bookmakers favourites either so I don't know where you're getting the idea we were expected to walk the league from

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    A large chunk of the fanbase were predicting mid table or worse in the summer, we weren't any bookmakers favourites either so I don't know where you're getting the idea we were expected to walk the league from
    This. I don’t know a single person before or now that expect us to walk the league. Outside of the club, the theme on the league forums is that we’re in a false position being top, that we’ll be in the top 6 but we’ll not win it.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    I mean, the expectations are for us to walk this league, especially given Luton and Plymouth haven't really made it out of the gates and Huddersfield have underperformed. Our competition this season are two League One mid-table stalwarts in Stevenage and Lincoln, and a League 2 promoted team in Bradford. I actually urged people to calm down after the Bradford loss, but the Burton loss was just flat-out awful and we haven't looked comfortable since the game against Wigan I'd argue.

    The culprits for relegation (manager and suspect players) have pretty much been resolved now, and we should have everything to be a mid-level Championship team. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but there are high expectations for a reason, given how we really shouldn't have been as horrendously awful as we were last season.
    The expectation in your head maybe. Birmingham spent a fortune last season and went through a few rough periods. We are still winning games even when we are not dominating games for 90 minutes. Why people expect us to "walk the league" when we hardly made any transfers and are relying on bringing a load of youngsters through at the same time I dont know.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    After the first few games, there were a few posts on here from people who had been following the City for 50+ years, saying it was up there with the best ever football they'd witnessed by a Cardiff team.
    The passing was crisp and accurate, with attacking intention.
    Yes, we were lacking a cutting edge at No 9, but the attacking midfielders...notably Ruben, were more than making up for that.
    We rode our luck with a few of the wins, but with Trott performing miracles, we were setting a standard for this league.
    It seems now that we have lost the tag of being the team to be feared.
    Indeed, we have been outplayed by a succession of ' lower ' teams.
    Maybe after the Bradford defeat , opposition managers and coaches have realised that we have a weak underbelly throughout the team, and set up to dominate our midfield and control the game.
    After the Rotherham trouncing ( we should have gone for thr jugular and scored six or seven...they were awful ), and maybe the Plymouth win, we've been sussed.
    We started the season by making the CCS a fortress...but we have now become a bang average side at home, who are vulnerable to say the least.
    Was our early scintillating form, actually built on sand?
    Lalwor is injured, and Osho replacing him is the most recent issue.

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Considering we got rid of so many players and are in an unfamiliar league, I'd say the season couldn't really have gone any better so far (being top). That doesn't mean to say we don't have weaknesses, we have certainly rode our luck at times so far. I agree we need a couple of quality players in January, maybe that will be what sets us apart, our ability to spend in January well above our rivals

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Tango View Post
    Considering we got rid of so many players and are in an unfamiliar league, I'd say the season couldn't really have gone any better so far (being top). That doesn't mean to say we don't have weaknesses, we have certainly rode our luck at times so far. I agree we need a couple of quality players in January, maybe that will be what sets us apart, our ability to spend in January well above our rivals
    Well said. Fair and balanced. Unusual for this place which is by far the worst most negative forum or form of social medai when it comes to critiscising the team itself and just full of Victor Meldrews. I honestly dont know what some people on here get out of going to the football, or supporting from afar. If you cant enjoy being top of the league then f*ck me, why bother?

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    Re: What has happened to our early season style of play?

    Well said both of you. I think this just proves how short fans memories are. The dross of the last few years are quickly forgotten and we're now yearning for the early part of the season when were great not merely lucky.
    Just watched the extended highlights. Hadn't realised the excellent build up for the first, from our penalty area just like one of the Orient goals. BBM signature?
    Also hats off to the players for bouncing back from the dreadful 1st half to claw a win back. Of course if you like we were just lucky.

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