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I'll wager anyone with an IQ of less than 90 will say "Good for Nige, tell it how it is". He certainly won't lose their support, the question is whether they can get out of Wetherspoons to vote for him.Originally Posted by Hilts
As for whether it costs votes..ask yourself, did you vote for Labour after the numerous Jewish MPs left because they felt they couldn't be in the same party?
In other words... you'll still be voting for Farage then?
No I didn't vote Labour
1 / General election is at least three years away
2 / You vote for a local candidate
3 / I'll take account of a tonne of factors. What som one may have said 50 years ago is part of it, but the idea it would trump far more pertinent factors is farcical.
4 / Don't know yet. Tbh, Labour are getting to grips with immigration numbers which is good. If this was the last miserable budget then that changes things too. The Tories seem off the floor. The Lib Dems are usually a good local bet. I won't vote Greens at a national level and I won't vote Plaid on principle, but apart from that, the vote is up for grabs!
My point is though, that if you guys think a story about what someone may have said 50 years ago is a huge game changer then you haven't been paying attention, as what has happened elsewhere, in far more recent times, demonstrates that.
Personally I think Farage probably said things that were deemed acceptable at the time legally, but would still amount to bullying, and I don't doubt he was a bit of a bully at school. He should apologise for any hurt caused. But he does have a point that things were very different fifty years ago. Things were very different ten years ago. And things may be very different in ten years time, which is a point I have made elsewhere.
So no, I genuinely don't know where my next vote will go. As things stand though, I definitely think Wales needs a break from Labour and Labour needs a break from Wales. So I definitely won't be voting for them in the senedd. As for Westminster, theres a torrent or water to pass under any bridges yet. 👍
Yes would have done.
Bit ironic given the uselessness of your reply there.
IÂ’m old enough to remember what life was like fifty years ago and yes there was plenty of stuff said that would be considered to be racist today. What I cannot recall though is anyone saying to Jewish youngsters that Hitler was right and turning the letter s into a hiss to imitate the noise made in the gas ovens of concentration camps.
They are desperate to write this off as harmless banter for the time.
Its pathetic. But not surprising.
The story is, of course, about Farage's words and behaviour when he was an obnoxious, racist schoolboy. But it is more about Farage's words and behaviours now when faced with this account of his past.
The deflection and evasion is a window on his sordid character, once again.
Surely Farages ex school colleagues should have brought all this up the moment he got into politics? May have scuppered his political career before it began.
What a pity they didn't
It’s not long ago Nige was parading a convicted racist (who incidentally pled guilty) at his party conference.
If it walks, talks and walks like a racist, well you know the rest.
Meanwhile…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09z578p4lo
Good to see Farage getting his house in order and leading by example.
It does seem odd that the party Farage leads, a man who probably had a waank over Enoch Powell, touched cocks with Yaxley Lennon and made glances to any National Front members when trying to attract new members for UKIP would attract people who you can probably describe as racist?
Bizarre really.
I can't work that out myself and they all profess to not being racists. It's weird. I wonder when Reform might feel confident enough to allow it's senior members to parade in public dressed in KKK garb? I guess that decision will be down to the Grand Wizard, Farage himself.
As a change from the Nazi youth stories that are burying Nigel in shit, let's go back to the last scandal (last week) of Reform acting as paid agents for Putin!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...p-brexit-party
Three more British MEPs from Nigel Farage’s bloc are alleged to have “followed the script” given to a colleague who was being bribed by an alleged Russian asset, according to prosecutors, as a police investigation into the affair continues.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has named Jonathan Bullock, Julia Reid and Steven Woolfe, saying they followed the script provided to Nathan Gill by Oleg Voloshyn when giving interviews to 112 Ukraine, a pro-Russian TV channel in March 2019.
In all, at least eight MEPs elected for either Ukip or the Brexit party are now known to have been the focus of efforts by Reform UK’s former Wales leader Gill to co-opt them into fulfilling tasks set for him by his Kremlin paymasters.
No , I am sorry this is outrageous !
That daft old cow who complained about there being too many black faces on tv adverts was a racist ?
No way
I mean where's the evidence for such a spurious claim! ?
Apart from what she said
Yours non racistly
Mr NF
Clacton
Not Far Right ....Just Extremely Far Right
Watch out!!! You'll be getting our friend Jimbo all agitated using that kind of language.
BBC News - Rupert Lowe MP mistook charity rowers as possible 'illegal migrants' - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link
No way is this wine soaked old ponce a racist
Perish the thought
Captain Mannering
Keeping Britain Safe
Lowestoft
Hey hun, you okay? Nice weekend?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-watchdog-head
Playground banter??
Not vile racism.
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