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  1. #251

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Haven't had a curry in ages. The last kebab I had (many years ago) ran straight through me. What an enriching night that was.

    Technically, and not that I'm advocating this, but you don't need immigration for kebabs and curries; you just need to go and learn their techniques and bring them back.
    Eating a Kebab after several beers (does anyone eat them sober) is one of the most Culturally British things a man can do. I'd stick with a roast iif i was you

  2. #252

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The concept of national identity wherever you live in the world is a moving feast. It is largely subjective and often based partly on myth, selective historical indoctrination and stereotypes.
    Nations are simply defined by red lines on maps and individual human attributes are far more complex and less homogenous once they are freed from state and religious yokes.
    I'd like to nominate this response for the word salad post of the day award

  3. #253

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    I miss the traditional British values where you could express yourself freely without fear of causing offence.

    I miss calling my local Chinese take away "the chinkies", the Indian shop owner "the pakis" and referring to any woman to as "luv" "sweetheart" or "daft slag".

    In fairness since the late 70s British values have turned to shiit.

    I'd bring back tv programmes like Mind Our Language to demonstrate how open and tolerant we were to "darkies" and "wogs" coming over here.

    I blame Starmer.
    If you ever feel the need to visit a trip down memory lane, a sense of nostalgia, a feeling for days gone by, and the chance to see, gear and listen to most of what you've posted above, Then there's always an open invite for you Jordi to have Christmas dinner at my in laws. Even the door bell chime is ****ing racist.

  4. #254

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Bet you order a Masala and think you're being cultural.
    found one

  5. #255

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'd like to nominate this response for the word salad post of the day award
    Is he wrong though?

  6. #256

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Is he wrong though?
    I'll get back to you after I run it though my word salad translator

  7. #257

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'll get back to you after I run it though my word salad translator
    You mean AI?

  8. #258

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    You mean AI?
    No, a professor of anthropology at Oxford University.

  9. #259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    How do the different customs etc enrich our society?
    I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

    The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.

  10. #260

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

    The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.
    I'd also flip the question: What have the people getting mad at the different custom contributed positively to society? All they've managed is rage and riding on the backs of other people actually responsible for positive contributions to society. They've done more to hurt society than not only immigrants as a whole, but I'd even argue the criminal immigrants they crow on about, because they've allowed a rot to fester that's much harder to deal with than individual criminals.

    They should be grateful the question and narrative has not shifted to whether or not they should be allowed to participate in civil society, because the narrative they're concocting is a Frankenstein monster that will turn in on itself.

  11. #261

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

    The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.
    I've tried to emigrate to many fantastic countries outside of the west and they all said they don't do immigration. Pity really as they all looked like nice places to live.

  12. #262

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I'd say food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that.

    The society I live in has been enriched by different cultures and customs throughout all of my 59 years. I can't imagine what life would be like if it hadn't. What would things be like in the UK without immigration, I wonder? We'll never know. Or care.
    The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste. It doesn't make anyone better or worse for what they choose. My question was to Tuerto who suggested he could walk down City Road and get a "true education" and it enriched us as a society and I asked how. Whenever there's a debate on immigration, diversity is suggested as a positive thing but it's a digression at best.

  13. #263

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste.
    I think they affect each and every one of us on a daily basis. Of course, those opposed to immigration will pretend they don't, but we all know that's nonsense in reality.

    UK 'culture' (if there actually is such a thing in this day and age) includes countless elements either taken directly from or strongly influenced by other cultures from all over the globe, and that's been the case all of my life.

    I often wonder how people who maintain a firm anti-immigration stance reconcile their support for professional football in general and Cardiff City in particular? If their 'consumer choices' include supporting a club like ours, do they feel at all hypocritical?

  14. #264

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've tried to emigrate to many fantastic countries outside of the west and they all said they don't do immigration. Pity really as they all looked like nice places to live.
    You know that you're f ucked when Moldova don't even want you.

  15. #265

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    The things you list are subjective and consumer choices. They may or may not affect any given individual, based on personal taste. It doesn't make anyone better or worse for what they choose. My question was to Tuerto who suggested he could walk down City Road and get a "true education" and it enriched us as a society and I asked how. Whenever there's a debate on immigration, diversity is suggested as a positive thing but it's a digression at best.
    It's pretty simple. City rd is unique, as most of us are aware. The majority of business owners originate from different countries and different cultures. So i eat, talk to people, find stuff out that i didn't know before, and i have made sone friends along the way. I'm completely aware of the fact that their main objective is to make money for them and their families, and once i have left, they move onto the next punter. That's fine with me, but if me and others feeling like we have learnt something, eaten something that i wouldn't ordinarily eat, sit amongst people from a background that i would rarely do, and noticed stuff that i wouldn't in most other parts of the city, then i'm more than happy to be a 'By Product' of all of that.

  16. #266

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    I’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
    I wouldn’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
    The only times i’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when i’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
    I’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. I’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
    Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You aren’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You aren’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?

  17. #267

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    IÂ’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
    I wouldnÂ’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
    The only times iÂ’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when iÂ’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
    IÂ’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. IÂ’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
    Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You arenÂ’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You arenÂ’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?
    Fair enough Bill, we're all different, and we experience things in different ways, Although i was waiting for the punchline from a joke with your last sentence

  18. #268

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I think they affect each and every one of us on a daily basis. Of course, those opposed to immigration will pretend they don't, but we all know that's nonsense in reality.

    UK 'culture' (if there actually is such a thing in this day and age) includes countless elements either taken directly from or strongly influenced by other cultures from all over the globe, and that's been the case all of my life.

    I often wonder how people who maintain a firm anti-immigration stance reconcile their support for professional football in general and Cardiff City in particular? If their 'consumer choices' include supporting a club like ours, do they feel at all hypocritical?
    Food and drink perhaps, depending on what you choose. The other things might not have any bearing. If "food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that" were a requirement for permanent residence, there'd be a fraction of the immigration we have.

    But, again, that's not the point. All most people are saying is that immigration should be better managed which is met with cries of racism and selective examples of why everything's dandy.

    Can't really help with the last paragraph; maybe you should ask them.

  19. #269

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I’ve lived in Cardiff all my life. All 60 yrs.
    I wouldn’t say my life has been enriched at all by living side by side with different nationalities, customs and cultures.
    The only times i’ve felt enriched and excited by other customs and cultures, is when i’ve decided to travel myself to far off shores and destinations.
    I’ve visited many places in Europe and the far east. I’ve made many good memories, mets lots of interesting folk, and learnt a lot about different cultures , currencies, customs, music etc.
    Day to day life in Cardiff has been quite monotonous. You aren’t going to learn much from visiting your local Italian or Indian restaurant, or driving a German or Malaysian car. You aren’t gonna walk into a pub in Cardiff and have good chin wag with a Chinese,, Somali, Thai or Japanese punter are you ?
    You can't beat total emersion when it comes to experiencing a culture.

  20. #270

    Re: Henry Nowak

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Food and drink perhaps, depending on what you choose. The other things might not have any bearing. If "food, drink, music, entertainment, sport, fashion, art, stuff like that" were a requirement for permanent residence, there'd be a fraction of the immigration we have.

    But, again, that's not the point. All most people are saying is that immigration should be better managed which is met with cries of racism and selective examples of why everything's dandy.

    Can't really help with the last paragraph; maybe you should ask them.
    Not even the food. I took a guest from Hong Kong to one of the better Chinese restaurants in Cardiff and they said it was shite

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