German elections

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

It'll take them a while, but they'll end up with a government that's a hell of a lot more competent than ours, and that's more representative of the wishes of the electorate.

[life on mars]

It'll take them a while, but they'll end up with a government that's a hell of a lot more competent than ours, and that's more representative of the wishes of the electorate.

But we don't like central left / right politics as its just Tory lite just ask Momentum , that where Labour were under Blair and now they hate him ,perhaps that explains the incompetency and what we have in power ?

[the other bob wilson]

But we don't like central left / right politics as its just Tory lite just ask Momentum , that where Labour were under Blair and now they hate him ,perhaps that explains the incompetency and what we have in power ?

And he turns yet another question that had nothing to with Labour into an opportunity to have a go at them.

[life on mars]

And he turns yet another question that had nothing to with Labour into an opportunity to have a go at them.

I was simply pointing out that the German / Europe politics would not sit well with the Corbyn or UK Socialist type of politics as they have a centre left feel more akin to the current Tory party, our Socialism has very little attraction in Europe the same as the Democrats in the USA they are not socialist .

Europe is more centre left Blair like and I have read on hear so many times how he is disliked and called Tory Lite by a lot of Labour voters ,interestingly that was when Labour was last in power with a huge majority and supporters , there is a message there .

But hey you know all this .

[jon1959]

I was simply pointing out that the German / Europe politics would not sit well with the Corbyn or UK Socialist type of politics as they have a centre left feel more akin to the current Tory party, our Socialism has very little attraction in Europe the same as the Democrats in the USA they are not socialist .

Europe is more centre left Blair like and I have read on hear so many times how he is disliked and called Tory Lite by a lot of Labour voters ,interestingly that was when Labour was last in power with a huge majority and supporters , there is a message there .

But hey you know all this .

I also know that the last Blairite Labour campaign (under Brown) was in 2010 when Labour won 29% of the vote.

Milliband won 30.4% in 2015.

Corbyn won 40% in 2017 and 32.2% in 2019.

Of course Corbyn was the biggest electoral disaster in the history of parliamentary elections according to most of the PLP and media.

But hey, you know all this.

[life on mars]

I also know that the last Blairite Labour campaign (under Brown) was in 2010 when Labour won 29% of the vote.

Milliband won 30.4% in 2015.

Corbyn won 40% in 2017 and 32.2% in 2019.

Of course Corbyn was the biggest electoral disaster in the history of parliamentary elections according to most of the PLP and media.

But hey, you know all this.

Brown was not Blair , and that stated this rot , you've carefully selected the dying Blair / Brown era ,as your rightly point out the Miliband and Corbyn vote share rose , strangely they never found power.

Think the Corbyn defeat was the worse since 1935 for Labour and even after that they and you still cant see through the fog of the past ,they should form their own fringe party and allow Sir Keir to invite in and back the centralist and get elected its not impossible its about removing the part of the party that holds it back .

'Lose, lose, lose, lose, Blair, Blair, Blair, lose, lose, lose, lose’. 11 true and sad words



But hey, you know all this.