Council results

[Doucas]

Looks grim for the tories in blue so far, but the tories in red are doing well.

[Eric Cartman]

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I live in East Herts, massive swing away from the Tories, mostly to the greens. Not entirely unexpected as lots wouldn't vote Labour and the Lib Dems are so meh at the moment that even though they are the natural 'protest' they aren't really a convincing option. But the scale of the Tory collapse is unbelievable. Tory controlled all but one term during the 30+ years I have lived here. They won all 50 seats in 2015.

[Rjk]

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yeah this isn't looking good for the tories, maybe they need another leadership contest

[Rjk]

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They were saying the other day that any more than 600 Tory losses would be a worse than expected result .

Now they're talking about 700 losses and I've even seen 1000 being mentioned.

Senior tories are saying we need to cut taxes to stimulate growth - didn't they already try that?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The real election is what matters

I want to see the Tories absolutely battered but I think at best it may be a labour liberal coalition

The Tories have an 80 seat majority to overturn its a big ask

Largest party is what Labour need to aim for

[JamesWales]

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Shit night for the Conservatives and a good night for Labour. That is pretty standard with local elections mind, where the party in power in Westminster very often gets a kicking.

That said, it's real results. It gives credibility to the opinion polls and undeniably shifts the balance of power towards Labour and also the Lib Dems.

I don't think it changes anything from last week though. We knew this would happen. Turnouts are low and people do vote differently in local elections.

For me the big thing is that it's a race against time for Rishi Sunak. Global economic conditions should be far better for the next 18 months than the last 3 years and a lot of the criticism thrown at them (inflation etc) will likely dissipate, allowing for some targeted tax cuts and growth whilst keeping unemployment low etc

Labour still on course to win, but I don't think yesterdays result change that much at all really

[Organ Morgan.]

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Shit night for the Conservatives and a good night for Labour. That is pretty standard with local elections mind, where the party in power in Westminster very often gets a kicking.

That said, it's real results. It gives credibility to the opinion polls and undeniably shifts the balance of power towards Labour and also the Lib Dems.

I don't think it changes anything from last week though. We knew this would happen. Turnouts are low and people do vote differently in local elections.

For me the big thing is that it's a race against time for Rishi Sunak. Global economic conditions should be far better for the next 18 months than the last 3 years and a lot of the criticism thrown at them (inflation etc) will likely dissipate, allowing for some targeted tax cuts and growth whilst keeping unemployment low etc

Labour still on course to win, but I don't think yesterdays result change that much at all really

Yes, prospects for the next 18 months are looking tickety boo.

[JamesWales]

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Yes, prospects for the next 18 months are looking tickety boo.

Well the last 3 years included the greatest economic shock since world war 2 and then Europe's two largest countries going to war.

I think we all hope the next 18 months are more stable than that!

[Organ Morgan.]

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Concerning UK unemployment, this BBC article from March is an eye-opener. Unemployment: Who are the millions of Britons not working? - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52660591

It says, 'about a quarter of people of working-age - around 10 million people - don't currently have jobs,' then later on, 'officially, about 1.3 million people in the UK were unemployed.'

Effectively then, there's really approaching 8 times more working-age people who are unemployed than what the official figures - which is defined and manipulated by government setting a very narrow criteria - would have us believe.

[life on mars]

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Well the last 3 years included the greatest economic shock since world war 2 and then Europe's two largest countries going to war.

I think we all hope the next 18 months are more stable than that!

Yes and the effects will ripple , cannot wait for the next General Election , it will hinge on those not wanting to vote for Labour and Tories ,where will they go ,will folk warm more to Rishi Sunak as the polls are suggesting , will times get better , will greens take more , will SNP recover all by 28 January 2025 the latest date the next GE can be called ... its going to be brutal on here and out there

[pipster]

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The real election is what matters

I want to see the Tories absolutely battered but I think at best it may be a labour liberal coalition

The Tories have an 80 seat majority to overturn its a big ask

Largest party is what Labour need to aim for

Seeing as the SNP are somewhere between opposing same sex marriage and allowing male rapists to identify as women to get into a woman's prison - you would think Labour would being getting all those seats in Scotland at the next election

Unfortunately Sir Beer Korma cant seem to work out if a woman can actually have a penis or not or whether Eddy izzard can go on the all woman panel as a prospective MP.

If Labour can sort it out then Sir Keir should be a shoe in for the next election. It'll then be the Tories chance to leave a note saying "all the money's gone" - nothing seems to ever change

[Wales-Bales]

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Well the last 3 years included the greatest orchestrated economic shock in living memory and then Europe's two largest countries were pushed into war by the USA.

I think we all hope the next 18 months are more stable than that, but they probably won't be.

True!

[Rjk]

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past 600 Tory losses with 30% of the results still to come in

[the other bob wilson]

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Tories have lowered expectations to such an extent that 800 losses will be portrayed as not that bad - that’s codswallop, but will Labour really be that pleased with their showing? Good results for Lib Dems and Greens.

[ToTaL ITK]

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Bad as it is,there are another 5-6 front benchers that haven't had a turn at being PM