Riot in Ely

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Riot in Ely

No I'm not confusing anything and there is still a huge question mark as to whether or not it will ever be independent.

Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

[blue matt]

Re: Riot in Ely

The people of Cardiff and in this case the people of Ely have had lots of opportunities to get rid of Labour and replace them with what you would like which is the conservatives

They have rejected them totally

There are lots of things wrong with labour in Wales but it seems the people don't want your lot

Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

[blue sky]

Re: Riot in Ely

No I'm not confusing anything and there is still a huge question mark as to whether or not it will ever be independent.

Well you said that Wales isnt a ‘sovereign nation’. That isn't a terminology that’s normally used, ‘sovereign state’ is correct. Wales is a nation and a country but not a sovereign state.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Labour wants to tax workers more and pay more benefits, so, of course, they will vote for what benefits them most, everyone knows that surely?


If Wales had independence it would be the biggest political disaster ever, they can't manage the little bits of power they have, the NHS is 10 times worse than England, the Roads are a 10mph mess, the airports a car park with no planes, the economy is fecked, they want to tax the few tourists we have more, he hasn't got a clue!

Firstly I don't support Welsh independence

Secondly do YOU think that labour will tax working people more and increase the number on benefits ?

Thirdly do you think most people in Ely are on benefits ?

I don't think you are correct at all

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

What do you think that the people living in London and the South East of England who struggle financially think about Rodger, his father Rupert and Grandfather Charles who vote for anyone in a Conservative rosette ? and have kept things that way for several hundred years ?

It's all a bit predictable eh

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

I am almost certain your parents were conservatives and you have become exactly the same

[blue matt]

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I am almost certain your parents were conservatives and you have become exactly the same

Oh yea, the only Tory in Barry :hehe:

[blue matt]

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What do you think that the people living in London and the South East of England who struggle financially think about Rodger, his father Rupert and Grandfather Charles who vote for anyone in a Conservative rosette ? and have kept things that way for several hundred years ?

It's all a bit predictable eh

It is, but that still doesnt take away from the statement I made, ( as GLC once said ) you knows its true

[blue sky]

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Firstly I don't support Welsh independence

Secondly do YOU think that labour will tax working people more and increase the number on benefits ?

Thirdly do you think most people in Ely are on benefits ?

I don't think you are correct at all

You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

I voted for the Welsh assembly

I don't think it's doing a very good job but it's better than being totally run from London

I would like proportional representation brought into Westminster but as things stand I think we in South Wales have more in common with Bristol than we do with Brecon or Aberystwyth

The Welsh assembly was brought in by a Labour Government . Without it the independents have a far bigger platform than before . However it seems Wales is not interested in independence and I agree with those voters who reject it .

[Dorcus]

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Well you said that Wales isnt a ‘sovereign nation’. That isn't a terminology that’s normally used, ‘sovereign state’ is correct. Wales is a nation and a country but not a sovereign state.

It is neither a nation nor a country. If I followed your logic I could call Dorset or Devon a country. Have some decorum please.

[Dorcus]

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Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

Well me definitely for one!

[Dorcus]

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You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

It's nothing to do with nationalism; it's all about Socialism v Capitalism. There's plenty of rich capitalists in Wales just like anywhere else: I have nothing in common with them. Wales also voted for Brexit, that's another reason to distance myself.

[Dorcus]

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Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

Your grandfather Dai and your father (what's his name?) sound like eminently sensible people.

[splott parker]

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Labour wants to tax workers more and pay more benefits, so, of course, they will vote for what benefits them most, everyone knows that surely?

Thinly veiled. ‘Every bugger in Ely is a benefit dependent scrounger, up to no good’...........Not so thinly veiled, ‘I’m a ‘I’m a better than you true blue Tory bigot’.