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  • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    As per the conversation in another thread. I don't, but here's some that I do detest.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...drink-30259972
    the real crime being committed is that jumper.

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    • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

      Originally posted by Doucas View Post
      Do you know what inflation is? Because I'm not sure you do judging by these arguments. I think this thread must have touched a nerve , probably because of all the women on online dating that say 'no tories'.

      Another example, being against increasing NHS wages in line with inflation which is causing hoards of staff to leave. Oh by coincidence this helps with privatising the NHS more.

      Don't bullshit me saying we can't afford it, we can afford corruption on mass, tax cuts for the wealthy, brexit and gifts for tory donors but not decent wages for public sector staff? I guess they can pay for their rent in claps.

      James, you support and defend the worst most corrupt government in the lifetime of any user on this forum at every opportunity. It's embarrassing.
      What kind of sophistry is this? The incumbent government has collected more in tax than any other government before it.

      If you can elucidate where taxes have been cut for the rich please feel free to show us. No party dogma, just hard facts please.

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      • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        The UK is trying to stop people making an illegal journey across the channel from a safe country that enriches criminal gangs. This could be seen as encouraging it. It's easy to point to stuff like this but what about the kids who's parents are losing their jobs here for example? How might those kids lives be impacted?



        That's why I say it's a nothing story. People can get furious over a mural to stop them thinking about things like that
        Occum's razor. Why don't we just allow the immigrants into the country, get them registered and working paying taxes? Why is that not a possibility? you'd soon get rid of the criminal gangs, you'd increase the taxes being paid and we'd have a record of all that came into the UK, meaning better stats allowing better funding models.

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        • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

          Originally posted by HiVis View Post
          Occum's razor. Why don't we just allow the immigrants into the country, get them registered and working paying taxes? Why is that not a possibility? you'd soon get rid of the criminal gangs, you'd increase the taxes being paid and we'd have a record of all that came into the UK, meaning better stats allowing better funding models.
          Do you think doing that would be the end of the small boats problem ? or do you think you would have the same problem 12 months later ?

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          • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

            Originally posted by pipster View Post
            Do you think doing that would be the end of the small boats problem ? or do you think you would have the same problem 12 months later ?
            If immigrants can just walk up and knock on the door, why would they go to the danger and expense of crossing on a boat ?

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            • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

              Originally posted by HiVis View Post
              What kind of sophistry is this? The incumbent government has collected more in tax than any other government before it.

              If you can elucidate where taxes have been cut for the rich please feel free to show us. No party dogma, just hard facts please.
              Google is your friend, took 2 minutes.

              The wealthiest 1% will be able to put more in their pension pots without paying extra tax to the Treasury.


              https://novia-iq.co.uk/tax/capital-g...consideration/ (the graph under allowances and rates shows that compared to inflation capital gains tax has been cut significantly. It should be around £14,500 now if it had followed it.)

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              • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

                Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                Google is your friend, took 2 minutes.

                The wealthiest 1% will be able to put more in their pension pots without paying extra tax to the Treasury.


                https://novia-iq.co.uk/tax/capital-g...consideration/ (the graph under allowances and rates shows that compared to inflation capital gains tax has been cut significantly. It should be around £14,500 now if it had followed it.)
                ???

                The CGT allowance has fallen, and CGT rates have risen.

                Generally, the rich don't invest in pension funds as the returns just aren't that impressive.

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                • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

                  This is how to deal with them



                  Lamont your eyebrows are weird !

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                  • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

                    Originally posted by HiVis View Post
                    What kind of sophistry is this? The incumbent government has collected more in tax than any other government before it.

                    If you can elucidate where taxes have been cut for the rich please feel free to show us. No party dogma, just hard facts please.
                    Maybe. But for a very short time until the markets intervened, there was a budget pitched at £45b of tax cuts predominantly for the most wealthy that resulted in about the same amount of debt for the people of this country. Who got the £45b is anyone's guess I suppose but probably not people on Universal Credit!

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                    • Re: Do you detest all Tories?

                      Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                      I spent a lot of my time in Guildford and I never met a Tarquin either. Unfortunately there's Tories everywhere, I'm in the midst of some of them here in Wales. The sort of people who want a leg up off other people's backs. I'm sure there's lovely people like yourself in Surrey as well as everywhere else. Good for you ��
                      They sound like a bunch of contortionists.....

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