Do you detest all Tories?

[Dorcus]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

And surprise surprise Wragg votes against Boris because he's got standards but Robinson abstains because she's totally spineless.
She was a staunch remainer until one day she suddenly became a Brexiteer. Desperately trying to keep her snout in the public purse trough

Unfortunately there's many many like her. The Tory leader didn't exactly cover himself in glory tonight; someone needs to tell him the first rule of leadership is to lead.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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And that ladies and gentlemen is the problem - right there in the quote above. Basically if you dont agree with what I believe you are scum. And then come election time you expect to get same 'scum' to agree with you and for the same party that you do. You Sludge, are a very effective Conservative recruiting sergeant, Rishi should sign you up immediately and offer you a full time job.

Johnathan Pie sums it up better

The reason why we have lost successive elections is because we elect shit leaders

We have a shit one still but hopefully we can get over the line

The Tories only care for themselves and it has always been thus

What the left and middle have to do is organise properly and elect decent leaders

It's not a game of love thy neighbour

[pipster]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

The reason why we have lost successive elections is because we elect shit leaders

We have a shit one still but hopefully we can get over the line

The Tories only care for themselves and it has always been thus

What the left and middle have to do is organise properly and elect decent leaders

It's not a game of love thy neighbour

Sludge - Tories look after themselves... Isnt that what Labour attempt to do via trades unions ? 35% pay rises for junior Dr's , 18% for nurses, the promise of various things for all of us by Drakeford and yet here in Wales after 26 years of Labour in power ( in charge of Health, Welfare and Education) - have you noticed any difference in those areas ? - as I havent.

[life on mars]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

No I don't detest any, its quite worrying question but not unexpected.

Politicians today are Tories some in the party others in opposition parties as they are centralist at heart as are most voters in the UK proven through election after election .

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

No I don't detest any, its quite worrying question but not unexpected.

Politicians today are Tories some in the party others in opposition parties as they are centralist at heart as are most voters in the UK proven through election after election .

Is that meant to make sense?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Is that meant to make sense?

Surely not

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

Sludge - Tories look after themselves... Isnt that what Labour attempt to do via trades unions ? 35% pay rises for junior Dr's , 18% for nurses, the promise of various things for all of us by Drakeford and yet here in Wales after 26 years of Labour in power ( in charge of Health, Welfare and Education) - have you noticed any difference in those areas ? - as I havent.

I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards

And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise

I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards

And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise

I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show

Why have you never mentioned this before?

[Dorcus]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

Is that meant to make sense?

You're expecting too much now!

[Dorcus]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards

And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise

I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show

Top man!!!

[pipster]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards

And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise

I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show

You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?

[Dorcus]

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You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?

Brilliant! 👍

[Doucas]

Re: Do you detest all Tories?

You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?

Have Welsh budgets not been cut during this time quite signficantly?

Please tell the crowd, how have the conservatives (who have far far more power) improved wealth in the UK?

PS - Dorcas is my alternate account

[pipster]

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No it isnt Dorcy - you are Sludge Evans alter ego

The Tories arent responsible for Health Welfare or Education in Wales, that is the job of the Senedd - currently controlled by Labour for 26 years. Fair enough technically for 4 years education was the job of the remaining LibDem AM at the Senedd - but I think she left at the last Welsh Assembly election.

[TWGL1]

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No it isnt Dorcy - you are Sludge Evans alter ego

The Tories arent responsible for Health Welfare or Education in Wales, that is the job of the Senedd - currently controlled by Labour for 26 years. Fair enough technically for 4 years education was the job of the remaining LibDem AM at the Senedd - but I think she left at the last Welsh Assembly election.

The guys a virtue signalling champagne socialist, don’t waste your time with melts like that.