Welsh speed limits - wtf!

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More than 240,000 people have a signed a petition opposing the new 20mph default speed limit in Wales

It's the most signatures a Senedd petition has ever received - by a wide margin

Read more: https://t.co/Vx5hSXfvMv pic.twitter.com/C6ZMhQu4Gv

— BBC Wales News (@BBCWalesNews) September 20, 2023

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Someone may want to point out to WOL that 61% isn't two thirds.
The interesting thing is, if the question was - 'Would you back 20mph in the streets around your home?' then you'd likely get above 90% saying yes.
The reality is that it's easier/quicker/cheaper to do a blanket change from 30mph to 20mph and given time and more local/council involvement, we'll see more main routes get changed back to 30. It just takes a bit of time.
So as it stands it won't work perfectly but given time, it'll be adapted and on smaller roads, we'll get used to it

Everywhere I've driven this week I would say 90% of the time 20mph is being ignored.

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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Everywhere I've driven this week I would say 90% of the time 20mph is being ignored.

I drove to Cardiff yesterday from the Thames Valley and it was very slow. M4 Bristol roadworks and accident, M4 after bridge queue no reason, M4 50 stretch very slow. Then drove Pentwyn, Cyncoed, Llanishen, Canton, Cyncoed, Lisvane throughout the afternoon and carnage. Nobody seemed to know what the feck was going on and the roads seemed strangled to death. Must be hell to do this on a regular basis.

Drakeford and his lot should get their act together as South Wales is no fun to visit by road.

[JamesWales]

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I drove to Cardiff yesterday from the Thames Valley and it was very slow. M4 Bristol roadworks and accident, M4 after bridge queue no reason, M4 50 stretch very slow. Then drove Pentwyn, Cyncoed, Llanishen, Canton, Cyncoed, Lisvane throughout the afternoon and carnage. Nobody seemed to know what the feck was going on and the roads seemed strangled to death. Must be hell to do this on a regular basis.

Drakeford and his lot should get their act together as South Wales is no fun to visit by road.

I think the big context with all of this is their scrapping of the M4 relief road. That signalled that they weren't particularly worried about road users. Then you have the state of Cardiff Airport, which I think Carwyn Jones govt was right to take over, but it cant be said that they have done a good job.

That leaves buses (pretty poor) and TfW which in fairness is being invested in, but is currently pretty poor esp in the valleys

Then someone comes in and says you have to drive 20mph on roads that are essentially safe to do at 30mph and people inevitably get pissed.

Poorly thought of and implemented policy really. Should have focused on improving road safety in specific locations, which is what we have done for 70 years and has seen roads get progressively safer .
On the main point of travelling to South Wales - it's a joke. Only a fool would open a distribution business on this side of Newport or even this side of the bridge

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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I think the big context with all of this is their scrapping of the M4 relief road. That signalled that they weren't particularly worried about road users. Then you have the state of Cardiff Airport, which I think Carwyn Jones govt was right to take over, but it cant be said that they have done a good job.

That leaves buses (pretty poor) and TfW which in fairness is being invested in, but is currently pretty poor esp in the valleys

Then someone comes in and says you have to drive 20mph on roads that are essentially safe to do at 30mph and people inevitably get pissed.

Poorly thought of and implemented policy really. Should have focused on improving road safety in specific locations, which is what we have done for 70 years and has seen roads get progressively safer .
On the main point of travelling to South Wales - it's a joke. Only a fool would open a distribution business on this side of Newport or even this side of the bridge

and electrification of rail stops at Cardiff and nothing for valley lines. a tidal barrage would be a massive source of free energy.

gets me really peed off seeing politicians centrally and in Wales making senseless policies.

as for business investment in Wales then forget it as you say.

[JamesWales]

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and electrification of rail stops at Cardiff and nothing for valley lines. a tidal barrage would be a massive source of free energy.

gets me really peed off seeing politicians centrally and in Wales making senseless policies.

as for business investment in Wales then forget it as you say.

Electrification is going up the valleys - that's why the service on lines past Ponty are so shocking at the moment I think.

I think the metro is the only success story of transport in Wales really, but it's still very much in the cracking eggs stage rather than enjoying any delicious omelettes.

[Heathblue]

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When you really don't believe it and forget to take the T shirt off :hehe:
how Virtuos, how dumb but presumably the reward is worth it!!
I wonder if the hands were unglued on the tarmac :hehe:
The hypocrisy :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
check out the comments :hehe:
Is it Lardy on the way to a CCMB message board meet of the Virtue division ?

Hey @JustStop_Oil one of yours I believe pic.twitter.com/vbcrtNuMPh

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