It's about time the XL Bully was banned.

[Trigger]

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I just don't get why your average person would want a dog that powerful. Everyone's different though I suppose.

If you're having to muzzle it, it probably just shouldn't be around people.

I'm not sure there is definitively something in them that makes them more aggressive, and indeed probably less so than the yappy little ****ers, but unlike them these are huge with solid muscle.

There's a lot of dog owners that shouldn't be looking after a goldfish unfortunately.

[superfeathers]

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So a suggestion,
We go back to the dog licence, so that everyone is very clear about who owns a dog.
If that dog then attacks someone, the dog is immediately put to sleep and the owner gets an automatic prison sentence. In the same way that drink driving is an automatic ban.

[Wash DC Blue]

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It is all about the owners and training IMO.
I got bitten by a Golden Retriever when I was a kid doing my paper round.

As has been stated, the owner of these type of dogs do tend to fit a certain profile and are probably fine with their dogs to be aggressive.

Something should absolutely be done, but I’d hate to see random dogs just be put down because of the law.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I think that some of these dogs are very dangerous

A bite from a jack Russell is nasty , a bite from one of these muscle bound dogs can be fatal

We have to stop pissing about

We have to get to a situation where a sighting of one of these dogs is rare and leads to vet checks and owner checks

Unless the authorities are certain the dog is safe and the owner is responsible then the dog is destroyed

I couldn't care less about the owners of these dogs if there is any remote chance of a fatal dog attack

You bought the bloody thing , it's aggressive, it's lashing out at people , don't give me that oh it's great with my kids crap , the vets are of the opinion it's a risk so it's going to be put to sleep

It's going to be upsetting but that's the way it is

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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So a suggestion,
We go back to the dog licence, so that everyone is very clear about who owns a dog.
If that dog then attacks someone, the dog is immediately put to sleep and the owner gets an automatic prison sentence. In the same way that drink driving is an automatic ban.

That will be great but may be too late in many cases

The breeding , ownership and distribution of dangerous dogs is completely out of control

The feckin kennel club and these owners of inter bred muscle dogs are idiots and if it was one of their kids butchered by these animals they would be crying and screaming on the TV news

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I'm doubting myself now????????

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/mark-drakeford-says-uk-government-27691867

The first time ever he's said something logical that I agree with!

Mind it's so obvious even he couldn't say the opposite of this especially as Wales has had more than our share of tragedy.

[chrisp_1927]

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I'm inclined to agree that it's more the fault of owners than the dogs. But to read some people on Facebook etc you'd think that it's impossible for any dog to be intrinsically aggressive. Also, as has been mentioned previously, if a big dog like the XL bully wants to go for you then it's a bit more of a problem than if a Yorkshire terrier has decided it really doesn't like you.

There were nearly 7,500 people hospitalised by dog attacks in 20/21 and by all accounts(BBC breakfast this morning) those figures have increased this year.

10 deaths last year from dog attacks. It's too many, and I think it's only right that legislation should be brought in.

Bit of a side point, but certainly pertinent to me. My sister has to use a wheelchair, and it's surprising to see how many otherwise calm dogs get triggered/aggressive when they catch sight of it. Also very worrying how many dog owners seem to find it amusing.

[superfeathers]

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Bit of a side point, but certainly pertinent to me. My sister has to use a wheelchair, and it's surprising to see how many otherwise calm dogs get triggered/aggressive when they catch sight of it. Also very worrying how many dog owners seem to find it amusing.

my old dog used to have similar whenever captain tom was on tv. Nothing else caused it but him. And that was an extremely calm (and small) dog. I've always had the opinion that you can't trust any dog completely, but with that in mind why anyone would want to go out of their way to get a dog SO physically strong and known to have tendencies for aggression is beyond me.

[Hilts]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66770328

Horrible dogs they are basically adapted from pit bulls, but made bigger and more powerful who would want one of those in their house with kids?

I am in total agreement almost every death you here is XL Bully's, as close as Caerphilly we've had deaths of a young 10-year-old boy and an 83-year-old lady, that one was crossed with a massive cross cane corso.

Don't worry about DNA if it looks like a pitbull or XL Bully put it down.

https://news.sky.com/story/xl-bully-...r%22%20version.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2408992.html

Drakeford agrees with you.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/mark-drakeford-says-uk-government-27691867

[Hilts]

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/mark-drakeford-says-uk-government-27691867

[North Cardiff Blue]

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...nment-27691867

Yes I said so about five posts above, he just copied Braverman, I've been saying it for years, since that poor kid.

[superfeathers]

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Yes I said so about five posts above, he just copied Braverman, I've been saying it for years, since that poor kid.

“ Some of you may remember a 10 year old child died in Caerphilly back in 2021. I attended the Police Federation National Bravery awards in London at the start of the recess, and the team of police officers who attended that absolutely awful incident were nominated for a national bravery award and I was fortunate enough to be able to talk with them about what they had witnessed that night and how they had helped others to deal with it.

You cannot imagine how awful that must have been. We wrote to the UK government then urging them to strengthen protections in law against what we had seen. The Dangerous Dogs Act of 1991 is not devolved. It's in the hands of the UK Government's, I think it should have acted already."

How is that copying braverman?

[ninian opinian]

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“ Some of you may remember a 10 year old child died in Caerphilly back in 2021. I attended the Police Federation National Bravery awards in London at the start of the recess, and the team of police officers who attended that absolutely awful incident were nominated for a national bravery award and I was fortunate enough to be able to talk with them about what they had witnessed that night and how they had helped others to deal with it.

You cannot imagine how awful that must have been. We wrote to the UK government then urging them to strengthen protections in law against what we had seen. The Dangerous Dogs Act of 1991 is not devolved. It's in the hands of the UK Government's, I think it should have acted already."

How is that copying braverman?

Jacks mum Lisa spoke in Parliament about these dogs in June so why all of a sudden have the Tory’s spoken out on this matter? I know because there is a general election looming. Action should have been taken a long time ago.

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/23572065.mum-caerphilly-dog-attack-victim-jack-lis-speaks-parliament/

[Optimistic Nick]

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You don't know what that expression means.

Can we ban cars? because they kill more kids than pitbulls do.

How about banning alcohol. Drunk people kill more people than dogs do.

Basically, what I'm saying is that simple-minded people like the OP would probably ban anything or anyone that he finds don't fit in with his particular world-view. He doesn't consider more sensible measures like controlling breeders, ensuring that dog-owners are qualified to look after a dog properly (regardless of breed). Maybe certain dogs should wear muzzles when in public.

Dog ownership and breeding should be reviewed. Not only to avoid dog attacks, but also for the welfare of the animals.

Seems odd that perfectly well adjusted people are unable to adopt a rescue dog on the one hand, and on the other, total bellends are able to get their hands on dogs like these. Ban idiots from owning dogs.

You do realise cars do more than kill people? You should see what water is capable of. What a moronic line of argument.

These dogs are weapons that fire indiscriminately. Idiots are a constant, and I’ve no appetite for eliminating the world of idiots. It’s theirs are much as it is ours. The trick is to limit the damage idiots can do. Obviously banning them owning any sort of dog is sensible, but it doesn’t mean that stopping the supply of aggressive, murderous dogs to anyone pis a bad thing. America has dicked around with a similar thoughts with guns and look where that got them. They are in a mess, and in the early throes of civil war. There is no good reason to own a dog that is trained to bite and hold and at about age 7, has a very strong. tendency to chew on other dogs and children.

Your ideas are not capable of being policed which is why we already have a list of banned breeds. It works. Banning idiots never will. So you can have a world with idiots and guns/bully XLs, or you can have a world with idiots and no guns/bully XLs. A world without idiots is a pipe dream.

[blue_emu]

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Obviously the only thing that stops a bad guy with a BULLY XL is a good guy with a BULLY XL.

On a more serious note these dogs are a man made shambles. I actually feel sorry for the BULLY XL being bred into it’s existence.

Also it's called BULLY XL :facepalm: