Net Zero....

[Rjk]

Re: Net Zero....

The whole shebang, one big grift, follow the money, I've seen, that reference previously. It's shite, cheers :thumbup:

You think the whole thing is made up?

[Heathblue]

Re: Net Zero....

:thumbup:Same ere forged in Llanrummney , never been out of work , don't do sick , had house reprocessed when mortgages were of the wall at 9 % , divorced as a result of money pressures , did two jobs to recover and pay for the Court Administration Order ,there were days where id didn't eat , odd shop lift of milk and bread got me trough , you'd be surprised how many full un drink pints are left outside pubs ,did I give in nope .

Whilst Llanrumney and Rumney were scrapping on Newport Road for superiority (Llanrumney always on top) Sludge was quaffing champers in Uni :hehe: a typical Tory bully boy. YODA said it better, the virtuos is strong with this one.

[Heathblue]

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You think the whole thing is made up?

Yes, next ?

[TWGL1]

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Yes, next ?

Why would the PM delay the implementation of the current policy in place if we are currently in a “climate emergency “

Surely regardless of cost etc the policy should not be delayed due to the seriousness.

:sherlock:

[lardy]

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Why would the PM delay the implementation of the current policy in place if we are currently in a “climate emergency “

Surely regardless of cost etc the policy should not be delayed due to the seriousness.

:sherlock:

Well gee, let me think, I wonder why just about every government has been kicking the can down the road for decades.

[life on mars]

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Whilst Llanrumney and Rumney were scrapping on Newport Road for superiority (Llanrumney always on top) Sludge was quaffing champers in Uni :hehe: a typical Tory bully boy. YODA said it better, the virtuos is strong with this one.

Love the Wreck scraps lol , you remember Slogger, sitting on the wreck leg in a bucket as one of your lot did him harm ,sadly he was an unforgiving sole ??

[life on mars]

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Well gee, let me think, I wonder why just about every government has been kicking the can down the road for decades.

Which governments , if were one of the best and only impacting on 1% got a feeling there maybe other countries out there, and opposition parties funding demonstrators for their own a political agenda ,instead of coming together as one to save the planet , same with NHS Labour have no real desire to fix it as it is a marvellous political tool ,why fix it when you use it ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I know, i refuse to be controlled, I finish my job near Tory Cowbridge today, a few of lads know you, starting a new job back in a red district on Monday. If it was 2 years on I'd have looked to put my feet up and join the sick note Britain Brigade, however being working class outta Roath, Ely, Rumney and Splott have chosen to put some more PAYE into the system :thumbup:

Nuts 🤪

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Whilst Llanrumney and Rumney were scrapping on Newport Road for superiority (Llanrumney always on top) Sludge was quaffing champers in Uni :hehe: a typical Tory bully boy. YODA said it better, the virtuos is strong with this one.

Pissed this early in the morning ?

Dear me

[Eric Cartman]

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Why would the PM delay the implementation of the current policy in place if we are currently in a “climate emergency “

Surely regardless of cost etc the policy should not be delayed due to the seriousness.

:sherlock:

Because it is supposed to be a pre-election trap for Labour, nothing more nothing less, cooked up by a strategist in a dimly lit room in cchq.

What sunak does has absolutely no bearing on the truth and vice versa.

[JamesWales]

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Because it is supposed to be a pre-election trap for Labour, nothing more nothing less, cooked up by a strategist in a dimly lit room in cchq.

What sunak does has absolutely no bearing on the truth and vice versa.

Why the big conspiracy? You realise that getting to net zero costs a shit load right, and would hurt the poorest most?
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Thats balanced against the policy aims, but why do you have to see some kind of shadowy conspiracy in it?

Statement deems quite open to me. I can well understand why environmentalists don't like it but I can see where he is coming from especially when we have decarbonised faster than others

[Eric Cartman]

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Why the big conspiracy? You realise that getting to net zero costs a shit load right, and would hurt the poorest most?
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Thats balanced against the policy aims, but why do you have to see some kind of shadowy conspiracy in it?

Statement deems quite open to me. I can well understand why environmentalists don't like it but I can see where he is coming from especially when we have decarbonised faster than others

I wondered how long it would take.

Anybody with a brain can see through this from the tone of the speech itself and the circumstances sunak finds himself in. If you want to believe that politicians are virtuously floating through life doing god's work then you can, I think the evidence suggests it is a deeply cynical game and this move is no different.

And yes really honest and open to reel off a list of scary policies that don't exist and tell people he has scrapped them, really? That's the kind of fear mongering politics you want, and from an official televised Downing Street press conference? Demeaning the office doesn't really cover it but after the last few years nothing surprises me.

I think you accused me of being naive recently..

[JamesWales]

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I wondered how long it would take.

Anybody with a brain can see through this from the tone of the speech itself and the circumstances sunak finds himself in. If you want to believe that politicians are virtuously floating through life doing god's work then you can, I think the evidence suggests it is a deeply cynical game and this move is no different.

And yes really honest and open to reel off a list of scary policies that don't exist and tell people he has scrapped them, really? That's the kind of fear mongering politics you want, and from an official televised Downing Street press conference? Demeaning the office doesn't really cover it but after the last few years nothing surprises me.

I think you accused me of being naive recently..

Hate to break it to you Eric, but no, not everyone sees things the way you do.

Like I said, I can see why people don't like what he said, but the reality is that all policies come with huge costs and benefits and on this one they've realigned things to push them both down the road.

Fear mongering?! No idea what you are talking about there. Again, whatever else he said, I don't think he's the one using fear to push through a policy.

If you want to believe there is far more to it than that then that's up to you

[Eric Cartman]

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Hate to break it to you Eric, but no, not everyone sees things the way you do.

Like I said, I can see why people don't like what he said, but the reality is that all policies come with huge costs and benefits and on this one they've realigned things to push them both down the road.

Fear mongering?! No idea what you are talking about there. Again, whatever else he said, I don't think he's the one using fear to push through a policy.

If you want to believe there is far more to it than that then that's up to you

I shall. From what you have said so far, I don't think you watched the speech in full, I would urge you to..

Here is some honesty and integrity for you though, a graphic from Rishi's twitter.

real_policies_honest.jpg

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1704522548648509467?s=20

2 of those are completely imaginary..

'I am the only one who can save you from [made up thing]' is politician scaremongering 101 and 'new approach' indicates that these were part of the existing approach.

It is lying.

[lardy]

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Which governments , if were one of the best and only impacting on 1% got a feeling there maybe other countries out there, and opposition parties funding demonstrators for their own a political agenda ,instead of coming together as one to save the planet , same with NHS Labour have no real desire to fix it as it is a marvellous political tool ,why fix it when you use it ?

It's posts like this that make me regret learning to read.