20mph online petition

[Tuerto]

Re: 20mph online petition

Your opinion. Not one shared by many people in Wales though, except possibly old ‘stick his head in the sand and hope it goes away’ Drakeford.

It seems that hardly anyone is driving around at 20 on the bigger-clearer roads, most people are definitely below 30 though, so anywhere between 23-28mph, which is good news really.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: 20mph online petition

It seems that hardly anyone is driving around at 20 on the bigger-clearer roads, most people are definitely below 30 though, so anywhere between 23-28mph, which is good news really.

That's the impression I get as well and I’m doing the same - when I’m trying to stick to the 20 mph limit, I’m always doing about 25 when I look at the speedometer after a minute or so.

[Tuerto]

Re: 20mph online petition

That's the impression I get as well and I’m doing the same - when I’m trying to stick to the 20 mph limit, I’m always doing about 25 when I look at the speedometer after a minute or so.

Yup, and i'd say that is what this is all about. The Welsh Government just wanted people to slow down. When it was 30mph there would be people going 35, and a small percentage going 40 or more. This over engineered 20mph speed limit will stop those people over time. One thing i do think is that 30 is too fast, 20 is difficult on long straight runs, 25 is about right, and in my opinion that's a win.

[Dorcus]

Re: 20mph online petition

Yup, and i'd say that is what this is all about. The Welsh Government just wanted people to slow down. When it was 30mph there would be people going 35, and a small percentage going 40 or more. This over engineered 20mph speed limit will stop those people over time. One thing i do think is that 30 is too fast, 20 is difficult on long straight runs, 25 is about right, and in my opinion that's a win.

Well said, I think this was the plan all round and makes a lot of sense. If it can emasculate the boy racers it will be a profound success.

[Ivortheengine]

Re: 20mph online petition

Yup, and i'd say that is what this is all about. The Welsh Government just wanted people to slow down. When it was 30mph there would be people going 35, and a small percentage going 40 or more. This over engineered 20mph speed limit will stop those people over time. One thing i do think is that 30 is too fast, 20 is difficult on long straight runs, 25 is about right, and in my opinion that's a win.

How can 30 be too fast after all this time? It’s been 30 ,for years and years. Long before Drakeford went on his almighty ego trip. It was 30 for a reason, so how come it’s not acceptable any more. ? The rest of this country think that the Welsh Govt are a laughing stock, including all the important people up in Westminster. If it was the way to go, the other countries ,which make up this wonderful nation of ours, would have been doing it long before we put it into operation. It’s a big mistake. We will find that out in the next major election.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph online petition

Yup, and i'd say that is what this is all about. The Welsh Government just wanted people to slow down. When it was 30mph there would be people going 35, and a small percentage going 40 or more. This over engineered 20mph speed limit will stop those people over time. One thing i do think is that 30 is too fast, 20 is difficult on long straight runs, 25 is about right, and in my opinion that's a win.

Drippy wants people to drive at 25 so he makes the speed 20 and that means you can be fined and have points on your licence for breaking the speed limit

What nonsense, what about the five-mile rule, did he want people to only drive to Swansea instead of Wrexham while breaking the rules and facing fines

Stop tying to make excuses for the stupidity of this cash wasting idiotic idea.

[TWGL1]

Re: 20mph online petition

How can 30 be too fast after all this time? It’s been 30 ,for years and years. Long before Drakeford went on his almighty ego trip. It was 30 for a reason, so how come it’s not acceptable any more. ? The rest of this country think that the Welsh Govt are a laughing stock, including all the important people up in Westminster. If it was the way to go, the other countries ,which make up this wonderful nation of ours, would have been doing it long before we put it into operation. It’s a big mistake. We will find that out in the next major election.

The problem with the WAG is that they think they have power , but it’s just a token gesture by Westminster. Could you imagine if Labour had free rein on all policy decisions.
WAG is the equivalent of the Vichy in France during WW2

[Tuerto]

Re: 20mph online petition

Drippy wants people to drive at 25 so he makes the speed 20 and that means you can be fined and have points on your licence for breaking the speed limit

What nonsense, what about the five-mile rule, did he want people to only drive to Swansea instead of Wrexham while breaking the rules and facing fines

Stop tying to make excuses for the stupidity of this cash wasting idiotic idea.

Does everyone drive at 70 on the motorway?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: 20mph online petition

Yesterday I drove up to Treorchy from Ponty. The whole route makes a total mockery of the whole 20mph thing.

Leave Ponty and go through Hopkinstown, a main road in a busy urban area. The road is 30mph, then 40mph through Trehafod. Once through Porth, the road is still 30mph through Dinas, rising to 40mph, then 60mph. I carried on and turned left before the Ivor Hael and went in on the back road through Pentre. Pentre was the only time I met a 20mph road until I got to the junction for Treorchy/Cwmparc.

[Rjk]

Re: 20mph online petition

Yesterday I drove up to Treorchy from Ponty. The whole route makes a total mockery of the whole 20mph thing.

Leave Ponty and go through Hopkinstown, a main road in a busy urban area. The road is 30mph, then 40mph through Trehafod. Once through Porth, the road is still 30mph through Dinas, rising to 40mph, then 60mph. I carried on and turned left before the Ivor Hael and went in on the back road through Pentre. Pentre was the only time I met a 20mph road until I got to the junction for Treorchy/Cwmparc.

so your complaint is you think more of it should be 20?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: 20mph online petition

so your complaint is you think more of it should be 20?

Of course not. If RCT council are arguing that main arterial routes still need to be at 30mph to keep traffic flowing, why aren't they adopting this across the area, which they are not, and why aren't other councils doing the same?

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph online petition

Well said, I think this was the plan all round and makes a lot of sense. If it can emasculate the boy racers it will be a profound success.

Can't stand those boy racers doing 27 down the four lane Caerphilly Road. Absolute animals.

[Dave Blue]

Re: 20mph online petition

How can 30 be too fast after all this time? It’s been 30 ,for years and years. Long before Drakeford went on his almighty ego trip. It was 30 for a reason, so how come it’s not acceptable any more. ? The rest of this country think that the Welsh Govt are a laughing stock, including all the important people up in Westminster. If it was the way to go, the other countries ,which make up this wonderful nation of ours, would have been doing it long before we put it into operation. It’s a big mistake. We will find that out in the next major election.

Where to start. Do you know it was a Tory who first proposed this in WG? Important people at Westminster? You must mean Tory ministers. They are doing a wonderful job aren’t they? They aren’t a laughing stock which the whole World realises? Other areas doing it? English councils throughout the country of every political colour. You also think Wales will go Tory because of a speed limit? (Plaid support it so your only logical conclusion is it will benefit Tories). Not a chance in hell.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph online petition

Where to start. Do you know it was a Tory who first proposed this in WG? Important people at Westminster? You must mean Tory ministers. They are doing a wonderful job aren’t they? They aren’t a laughing stock which the whole World realises? Other areas doing it? English councils throughout the country of every political colour. You also think Wales will go Tory because of a speed limit? (Plaid support it so your only logical conclusion is it will benefit Tories). Not a chance in hell.

Deflection attempt - It's a Drippy project for the sake of it, money is being wasted that could have been used for Services.

You know it's a stupid waste of money and have given up defending, now trying to deflect.

If you don't think this will cost Drippy votes you are living in cloud cuckoo land, it's where they go and what impact it can have.

[dml1954]

Re: 20mph online petition

Where to start. Do you know it was a Tory who first proposed this in WG? Important people at Westminster? You must mean Tory ministers. They are doing a wonderful job aren’t they? They aren’t a laughing stock which the whole World realises? Other areas doing it? English councils throughout the country of every political colour. You also think Wales will go Tory because of a speed limit? (Plaid support it so your only logical conclusion is it will benefit Tories). Not a chance in hell.

I think you need to take your head out if the sand and have a look around. This isn't just about the speed limits, it is about the way Welsh Labour have been ruining the Country for the last 25 years and are now dictating to its population and telling them what is the best way to run their lives. You are a classic example of someone who would vote for a bag of s**t if it had a red flag on it.