20mph online petition

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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Quite funny really the posters who were telling us that 20mph was absolutely the right thing, that it wasn't a problem to drop your speed by 10 mph and that the 10mph would save many lives and injuries, now saying "I meant 25mph, yeah 25mph is the right speed" 😂

[Rjk]

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Quite funny really the posters who were telling us that 20mph was absolutely the right thing, that it wasn't a problem to drop your speed by 10 mph and that the 10mph would save many lives and injuries, now saying "I meant 25mph, yeah 25mph is the right speed" ��

the guys telling us that the 20 mph limits are ruining their life in every conceivable way whilst at the same time saying that everyone is ignoring the speed limits anyway are the true comedians here

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Where to start. Do you know it was a Tory who first proposed this in WG? Important people at Westminster? You must mean Tory ministers. They are doing a wonderful job aren’t they? They aren’t a laughing stock which the whole World realises? Other areas doing it? English councils throughout the country of every political colour. You also think Wales will go Tory because of a speed limit? (Plaid support it so your only logical conclusion is it will benefit Tories). Not a chance in hell.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/mark-drakefords-popularity-fallen-new-27933160

Drippy's popularity drops, no shit!

[the other bob wilson]

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I think you need to take your head out if the sand and have a look around. This isn't just about the speed limits, it is about the way Welsh Labour have been ruining the Country for the last 25 years and are now dictating to its population and telling them what is the best way to run their lives. You are a classic example of someone who would vote for a bag of s**t if it had a red flag on it.

Substitute red for blue and you could be talking about yourself in that last sentence.

I don't like this new speed limit and I'm not persuaded yet that it is needed, but I'm not calling for a change of Government at the Assembly because of it - like a few others on here. you make it sound as if your objections to it are on purely party political grounds.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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the guys telling us that the 20 mph limits are ruining their life in every conceivable way whilst at the same time saying that everyone is ignoring the speed limits anyway are the true comedians here

It's not completely ignored in North Cardiff, plenty of dodderers clogging up the roads, although they are now getting tailgated overtaken, and beeped so will hopefully get with the program eventually. People who aren't local can't understand why these people are still doing it as it doesn't affect every area.

The issue is as a trial area the speeds have already been reduced, and new areas will benefit with councils scared to reduce, but they have been reduced like in Cardiff North, there will be no chance of getting them changed, so we will end up with some people affected and others getting away with normal speed limits (good for them I'm glad they are not affected).

I was in Newport and Cwmbran yesterday, where thankfully it was largely ignored, but what will happen when people start getting the points and fines, I think it will kick off more in the next twelve months.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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the guys telling us that the 20 mph limits are ruining their life in every conceivable way whilst at the same time saying that everyone is ignoring the speed limits anyway are the true comedians here

😂😂😂

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Substitute red for blue and you could be talking about yourself in that last sentence.

I don't like this new speed limit and I'm not persuaded yet that it is needed, but I'm not calling for a change of Government at the Assembly because of it - like a few others on here. you make it sound as if your objections to it are on purely party political grounds.

It's Drakeford's long-term record, as with Boris people will take so much, I think this will prove his and Welsh labourers' Party gate, snailgate will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

This is not political for me, no matter what party brought this in I would hate it and criticise it equally, it's the stupidity and pigheadedness that annoys me, we know no one likes it but we are doing it anyway, the same with you can't travel five miles, it must be a power trip?

I think Welsh Labour knows this and will be working quickly on a replacement, but who, I'm yet to see a decent Welsh politician from any political party.

[Rjk]

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It's Drakeford's long-term record, as with Boris people will take so much, I think this will prove his and Welsh labourers' Party gate, snailgate will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

This is not political for me, no matter what party brought this in I would hate it and criticise it equally, it's the stupidity and pigheadedness that annoys me, we know no one likes it but we are doing it anyway, the same with you can't travel five miles, it must be a power trip?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Keep deflecting

[the other bob wilson]

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It's Drakeford's long-term record, as with Boris people will take so much, I think this will prove his and Welsh labourers' Party gate, snailgate will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

This is not political for me, no matter what party brought this in I would hate it and criticise it equally, it's the stupidity and pigheadedness that annoys me, we know no one likes it but we are doing it anyway, the same with you can't travel five miles, it must be a power trip?

I think Welsh Labour knows this and will be working quickly on a replacement, but who, I'm yet to see a decent Welsh politician from any political party.

That poll you posted shows little or no evidence of Welsh voters deserting Labour, they're down a bit, but it's the leader taking the hit rather than the party.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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That poll you posted shows little or no evidence of Welsh voters deserting Labour, they're down a bit, but it's the leader taking the hit rather than the party.

Welsh Labour will get some votes no matter what they do especially in the Valleys after the mine closures, and to a point that's understandable. I do think they will lose a lot of votes because of Drakeford, how many and will it have much of an effect, probably not because a lot of people will vote for Welsh Labour no matter how daft their policies are.

This is a very board and there is no one left saying this is a good policy and should have been a top priority for spending as it's far more important than other services like the NHS.

Some tried but even the dullest knows it's nonsense now to try and defend it.

[superfeathers]

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plenty of dodderers clogging up the roads, although they are now getting tailgated overtaken, and beeped so will hopefully get with the program eventually.

Just to make you aware, other than being a stuck record it's cu**y statements like this that really let you down. What other laws do you think are in your own hands that you think you should force others to ignore?

"I think it will kick off more in the next twelve months."

I seem to remember you expected a revolt with pitchforks heading towards the senedd last month. Turns out that people grumbled, moaned, and got on with it, (except mainly, you) and some roads will end up getting changed in time. May want to change the batteries in your crystal ball

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Just to make you aware, other than being a stuck record it's cu**y statements like this that really let you down. What other laws do you think are in your own hands that you think you should force others to ignore?

"I think it will kick off more in the next twelve months."

I seem to remember you expected a revolt with pitchforks heading towards the senedd last month. Turns out that people grumbled, moaned, and got on with it, (except mainly, you) and some roads will end up getting changed in time. May want to change the batteries in your crystal ball

I've never set a date or any of the other nonsense I said people would start to feel the impact when it goes live, and you've only got to look here and on social media to realise that people are getting more and more very frustrated by it all. It will get worse when the fines and points start arriving.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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His next idea, doesn't affect me.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/big-debate-begins-future-vapes-27887906

The future of vapes across the United Kingdom is being discussed, with the Welsh First Minister saying he would back e-cigarettes only being available by prescription. On Thursday, October 12, The UK Government opened a consultation about how to crack down on youth vaping by reducing the appeal, affordability and availability of vapes to children. The consultation is open to anyone.

Proposals being consulted on include:

The future of vapes across the United Kingdom is being discussed, with the Welsh First Minister saying he would back e-cigarettes only being available by prescription. On Thursday, October 12, The UK Government opened a consultation about how to crack down on youth vaping by reducing the appeal, affordability and availability of vapes to children. The consultation is open to anyone.

Proposals being consulted on include:

Making it an offence for anyone born on or after January 1, 2009, to be sold tobacco products
Restricting the flavours and descriptions of vapes so that vape flavours are no longer targeted at children
Regulating point of sale displays in retail outlets so that vapes are kept out of sight from children and away from products that appeal to them, such as sweets
Regulating vape packaging and product presentation to not target it towards children
Considering restricting the sale of disposable vapes
Exploring further restrictions for non-nicotine vapes and other nicotine consumer products such as nicotine pouches
Exploring whether increasing the price of vapes will reduce the number of young people using them
Introducing new powers for councils to issue on-the-spot fines to enforce age of sale legislation of tobacco products and vapes

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has announced plans to introduce a new law to stop children who turn 14 this year or younger from ever legally being sold cigarettes, in a bid to create the first ‘smokefree generation’. You can read about that here.

In the Senedd on Tuesday (October 10), the First Minister was asked about vaping. He said: "In Australia, for example, Llywydd, the only way you can get an e-cigarette is by prescription, you can't buy them in shops, only through a medical prescription as part of a supervised attempt to give up smoking are they available. I would be attracted to that idea myself."

MS for Clwyd South, Ken Skates, spoke in plenary about how Wales had "lost almost a decade of opportunity" to protect young people from the harmful effects of vaping because the Public Health Bill wasn't passed in 2016. Mr Drakeford, who was then health minister, said: "Here, in this Senedd, we have to face up to the fact that there was an opportunity for this Senedd to take that preventative action and that opportunity was failed.

"The 2016 Bill would've brought the use of e-cigarettes into line with the use of other tobacco products and there were amendments passed to it during its earlier stages to provide new protections in places where children were most likely to be present. As was warned at the time, the use of e-cigarettes has now spread into those younger aged cohorts." For the latest politics news in Wales sign up to our newsletter here.

He added: "The UK Government now intends to take the actions that we could have taken here in 2016. We've lost ground in the meantime. There are children addicted to nicotine today who would've been saved from that addiction had this Senedd taken the action that was available to it."

[WJ99mobile]

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Welsh Labour will get some votes no matter what they do especially in the Valleys after the mine closures, and to a point that's understandable. I do think they will lose a lot of votes because of Drakeford, how many and will it have much of an effect, probably not because a lot of people will vote for Welsh Labour no matter how daft their policies are.

This is a very board and there is no one left saying this is a good policy and should have been a top priority for spending as it's far more important than other services like the NHS.

Some tried but even the dullest knows it's nonsense now to try and defend it.

Honestly now, would you prefer to see Andrew RT in charge over Mark Drakeford?

I voted conservative last time as it was better for me and even I wouldn’t like to see him anywhere near leader.

He also campaigned for 20 which I’m sure has been brought up