20mph online petition

[North Cardiff Blue]

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From my travels around Cardiff - I'd say about 80% of just ignoring 20mph

50% are dodderers by me and drive at 18 on the major roads that are safe at 40.

Burt I agree in areas outside the trial it is mostly ignored.

[Rjk]

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Yes, of course, that's good it's not a blanket policy all over England, we can already see its labour councils that love gimmicky daft attention-seeing ideas, then beg for more money when they go bust.

In Wales, it was sneaked in and Labour can do whatever they want. Other council areas will get advanced warning and get it stopped.

it isn't a blanket policy here either. I've just driven pretty much the entire length of Cardiff and maybe the first 50 -100 metres was at 20 mph

[The Bloop]

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Yes, of course, that's good it's not a blanket policy all over England, we can already see its labour councils that love gimmicky daft attention-seeing ideas, then beg for more money when they go bust.

In Wales, it was sneaked in and Labour can do whatever they want. Other council areas will get advanced warning and get it stopped.

Northampton, Thurrock and Woking councils aren't Labour run.

[Dave Blue]

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It’s not a blanket policy. I have gone at various speeds in many different roads. Probably ‘affected’ about 10% on any set journey. No big deal. Very interesting that Rishi ‘I hate Welsh Labour’ Sunak had to do a swift reverse when justifying Tory councils making the streets a touch safer by introducing the same laws locally. It will all be forgotten by Christmas and the libertarians will have some other ‘woke’ issue to be annoyed about.

[Dorcus]

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It's not insane or extreme, but unfortunately that's the language that people have chosen for political discourse. Same with Liz Truss 'crashing' the economy, Brexit being a 'disaster' etc etc.

I think the policy is probably well meaning but ultimately misguided, totally unnecessary and govt overreach, but saying such things doesn't get as much airtime, unfortunately

Whoever in their right mind thinks Liz Truss and Brexit are not both insane and disasters? Hardly extreme descriptors methinks!

[BLUETIT]

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50% are dodderers by me and drive at 18 on the major roads that are safe at 40.

Burt I agree in areas outside the trial it is mostly ignored.

How do you know his name is Burt ?

[Dorcus]

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How do you know his name is Burt ?

His second name is Reynolds

[BLUETIT]

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His second name is Reynolds

Is he in chains ?

[xsnaggle]

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I've seen a few people driving at say 22 or 24 on the odd occasion, but these would probably have been driving at 34 if it was a 30 zone.
the vast majority of people are sticking to the limit in my experience.

are you mostly driving around at 3 am or something?

From your use of words I cannot decide if you clocked these people using your own speedo or they just looked as if they were doing those speeds.

If people want t0 go the the limit the law allows they can do up 23 MPH in a 20MPH limit in S Wales and not be photographed. Additionally vehicle speedos have an error of 2+ miles/hour which if a driver feels safe he might add on and do 25 and probably still not get his picture taken.
I'm not saying I agree with the practice but it is a fact.
The speed cameras are set to exact limits, which is why I think many more people that would admit it think they have had their photo taken and wait anxiously for a letter that never arrives.

I'd be more interested in what speed motorists involved in fatal accidents in 30MPH limits were actually doing, rather than saying that all the accidents were at 30. If people were going faster then the new 20MPH limits won't suddenly make them slow down

[Dorcus]

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Is he in chains ?

Lol

[JamesWales]

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Whoever in their right mind thinks Liz Truss and Brexit are not both insane and disasters? Hardly extreme descriptors methinks!

Well given that it's a balanced picture and the majority of economic metrics put us above our European peers, I'd say most sensible people would avoid such hyperbolic statements!

[JamesWales]

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it isn't a blanket policy here either. I've just driven pretty much the entire length of Cardiff and maybe the first 50 -100 metres was at 20 mph

You must have gone down the A470, which isn't 20?

[Rjk]

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You must have gone down the A470, which isn't 20?

yeah I can either go down the A470 which isn't 20 or go M4-a4232 which is longer but often quicker and also not 20

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I watched him maintaining that inflation is a tax yesterday, so that’s another one he’s increased.

Nice spot

[Dorcus]

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Well given that it's a balanced picture and the majority of economic metrics put us above our European peers, I'd say most sensible people would avoid such hyperbolic statements!

As John McEnroe would say: "you cannot be serious!"