Russell Brand

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Russell Brand

Ed Milliband bad for speaking to Russell Brand.

Thatcher ignored for having a close relationship with Jimmy Savile and advocated for him to be knighted even when informed he was a sex pest.

The strange nuanced world of Jimbo.

What gets me is that he always acts so appalled and amazed at how anyone can possibly think such a thing when the truth is pointed out to him.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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What gets me is that he always acts so appalled and amazed at how anyone can possibly think such a thing when the truth is pointed out to him.

I am sure he will deal with this

Give the man time

[JamesWales]

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Which one out of Savile and Brand has been charged with anything?

Fair point. Jimmy died.

[JamesWales]

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What gets me is that he always acts so appalled and amazed at how anyone can possibly think such a thing when the truth is pointed out to him.

I'm not sure you have grasped the difference between truth and your opinion there Bob.

The articles I posted are an attempt at finding out the truth as to how he (alledgedly) got away with it. I have no idea why it upsets you so much?

And Jimmy Savile is nothing to do with this case. If you started banding that around in a trial the case would collapse.

[JamesWales]

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I am sure he will deal with this

Give the man time

Deal with what?!

[the other bob wilson]

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I'm not sure you have grasped the difference between truth and your opinion there Bob.

The articles I posted are an attempt at finding out the truth as to how he (alledgedly) got away with it. I have no idea why it upsets you so much?

And Jimmy Savile is nothing to do with this case. If you started banding that around in a trial the case would collapse.

No, I’m talking about the way you brought party politics into it. As I mentioned, Brand took certain elements of the left for mugs almost a decade ago and now he’s doing the same to elements of the right - he’s out for himself just like all psychopaths, politics, particularly party politics, has got nothing to do with it.

He’s also, near as damnit, admitted to exposing himself to a female working in the media in America - I think bringing politics into it is irrelevant, Brand is, to put it more mildly than Jordi Cule, a scumbag.

https://pagesix.com/2023/09/21/russell-brand-exposed-himself-to-a-woman-then-laughed-about-it/

[JamesWales]

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No, I’m talking about the way you brought party politics into it. As I mentioned, Brand took certain elements of the left for mugs almost a decade ago and now he’s doing the same to elements of the right - he’s out for himself just like all psychopaths, politics, particularly party politics, has got nothing to do with it.

He’s also, near as damnit, admitted to exposing himself to a female working in the media in America - I think bringing politics into it is irrelevant, Brand is, to put it more mildly than Jordi Cule, a scumbag.

https://pagesix.com/2023/09/21/russe...ghed-about-it/

It was an article from the time, it wasn't specifically party political, and if you have an issue with party politics being brought into debates there are much better examples!

This is the third thread on Russell Brand and, as I understand it, is more about how he managed to build up a power base around him to stay protected.

In that sense, I think latching onto politicians and certain ideologies probably did help him tbh. So it may be part of the story.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It was an article from the time, it wasn't specifically party political, and if you have an issue with party politics being brought into debates there are much better examples!

This is the third thread on Russell Brand and, as I understand it, is more about how he managed to build up a power base around him to stay protected.

In that sense, I think latching onto politicians and certain ideologies probably did help him tbh. So it may be part of the story.

Of course linking milliband to brand was political by you

You must think we have come down in the last shower of rain

You are pulling the wool over your own eyes

[JamesWales]

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Of course linking milliband to brand was political by you

You must think we have come down in the last shower of rain

You are pulling the wool over your own eyes

So in talking about Brands past do we have to ignore the fact that he was being courted by a potential prime Minister then?

Your reaction here says more about how any rumours were hushed up tbh.

Maybe such behaviours were part of the problem? Worth exploring, don't you think?

[Jordi Culé]

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It was an article from the time, it wasn't specifically party political, and if you have an issue with party politics being brought into debates there are much better examples!

This is the third thread on Russell Brand and, as I understand it, is more about how he managed to build up a power base around him to stay protected.

In that sense, I think latching onto politicians and certain ideologies probably did help him tbh. So it may be part of the story.

Regarding your last paragraph, do you think Savile maybe might have latched on to politicians and certain ideologies to help himself?

[JamesWales]

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Regarding your last paragraph, do you think Savile maybe might have latched on to politicians and certain ideologies to help himself?

Not really. He wrapped himself in charities, the media and in aligning himself to organisations at various levels. I don't think his cover was the same and I don't think newspapers praised his politics (I've seen interviews where he says he is apolitical).

Again, Im not really sure why people are so keen to talk about Jimmy Savile. Aren't you more interested in how Russell Brand managed to "get away with," his alleged crimes?

[Jordi Culé]

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Not really. He wrapped himself in charities, the media and in aligning himself to organisations at various levels. I don't think his cover was the same and I don't think newspapers praised his politics (I've seen interviews where he says he is apolitical).

Again, Im not really sure why people are so keen to talk about Jimmy Savile. Aren't you more interested in how Russell Brand managed to "get away with," his alleged crimes?

We're getting somewhere.

Yes I am. Brand may not or (in my opinion) may have used a similar template to Savile. The 70s/80s were different times to today but the cosying up to politicians appears to me to be very similar. Brand and Savile bring courted by the political establishment of the time.

It's interesting why Brand has turned to Ickeism ans started pedalling conspiracy theories unless of course he's a genuine utter looper?

Savile didn't need to as he had Maggie, the BBC in his pocket.

Looks like some establishments and institutions learn fuuck all from previous mistakes.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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I'm assuming nothing, Brand has admitted to being a sex pest, live on air.

He hasn't admitted to the serious accusations of sexual assault against him though has he. You're just going to assume he's guilty cos you don't like him?

[Maurice Swan]

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He hasn't admitted to the serious accusations of sexual assault against him though has he. You're just going to assume he's guilty cos you don't like him?

I agree....cannot stand the man....but it's all too easy for someone to come forward many years later (sometimes decades) without ANY actual proof.
Having said that, yes times were different in the sixties/seventies.....I am pretty positive that most of the music groups around that time took advantage of younger fans.

[ninian opinian]

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I agree....cannot stand the man....but it's all too easy for someone to come forward many years later (sometimes decades) without ANY actual proof.
Having said that, yes times were different in the sixties/seventies.....I am pretty positive that most of the music groups around that time took advantage of younger fans.

Russell Brand being investigated by Thames Valley Police following harassment and stalking claims. Thames Valley Police is the second police force to be investigating Brand. The Met has received "a number of allegations of sexual offences".

https://news.sky.com/story/russell-brand-being-investigated-by-thames-valley-police-following-harassment-and-stalking-claims-12975012

As it’s years later he should get away with it gov!