Lockdown - harmful to children

[TWGL1]

Re: Lockdown - harmful to children

People have been subject to problems with NHS waiting lists for many years

If you accept this was a world wide pandemic ......I hope you do ......then waiting lists , unemployment , kids missing school etc etc was always going to be a problem

What is it you are after here ?

I don’t accept it was a worldwide problem western societies definitely though , Many of African carried on relatively normally and escaped lightly, but this could be due to the lack of testing and societal distrust in governments.

[Dorcus]

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What about the 1:10 of the whole population on the NHS waiting list for operations ( indirect result of lockdowns), a vast majority of which are life threatening, will they get over it ?

What about the millions who have lost their businesses , will they get over it ?

Unfortunately life isn't perfect, no matter what they told you in Blue Peter.

[Dorcus]

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I think there is something in suggesting that young people could sometimes have a bit more resilience about the realities of life, but I'd say you are both being a bit dismissive here. Absenteeism, anxiety, mental health problems, less developed, lacking social skills, less suited to the workplace etc. There is a real post covid impact and I think it's all of our responsibility as a society to try and understand and help fix that tbh.

I don't think they can all be waved away by saying life is tough, get over it. Covid changed things.

James, dare I say it, you need to grow up. We were facing a horrendous pandemic; as in wartime there isn't always time nor opportunity to deal with the niceties. Children are far more resilient than adults; they will get over it.

Anyway this isn't a genuine thread about the issues with children and lockdowns. This is a thread initiated by libertarians who have a hatred of any collective restriction and who are sufficiently obsessed by the subject they constantly seek out some smidgeon of adverse news about the effects of lockdowns.

Lockdowns may well be unpleasant and will always cause issues but unfortunately in times of maximum risk they will always be required to be deployed as a defence of last resort.

[JamesWales]

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James, dare I say it, you need to grow up. We were facing a horrendous pandemic; as in wartime there isn't always time nor opportunity to deal with the niceties. Children are far more resilient than adults; they will get over it.

Anyway this isn't a genuine thread about the issues with children and lockdowns. This is a thread initiated by libertarians who have a hatred of any collective restriction and who are sufficiently obsessed by the subject they constantly seek out some smidgeon of adverse news about the effects of lockdowns.

Lockdowns may well be unpleasant and will always cause issues but unfortunately in times of maximum risk they will always be required to be deployed as a defence of last resort.

I don't think you have a grasp of the extent of the issue here. And in terms of growing up, I don't appreciate that one bit because I recognise and want to help people impacted by things in recent years.

You need to get over any ideological issue that may be real (or may be in your head) in respect of a thread on a messageboard and realise our younger generation is in need of help due to policies put in place in recent years. This IS a thread about the impact on children. That it wasn't started by someone ideologically pure enough for you says more about your priorities, not anyone else's. I couldn't care less who started the thread.

Quite an extraordinary outlook from you tbh. This isn't about the lockdown. That's the past. This is the future and the issues are real.

The problems some young people are facing as a consequence of the lockdowns are real. If all you have to say is tough luck, or pull your socks up, then fair enough, you've said your piece. But telling others to "grow up" isnt helpful to anyone whatsoever.

My kids were largely fine thankfully. Some of my friends kids really were not. I have friends who are teachers who have said some kids have regressed years.

[TWGL1]

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James, dare I say it, you need to grow up. We were facing a horrendous pandemic; as in wartime there isn't always time nor opportunity to deal with the niceties. Children are far more resilient than adults; they will get over it.

Anyway this isn't a genuine thread about the issues with children and lockdowns. This is a thread initiated by libertarians who have a hatred of any collective restriction and who are sufficiently obsessed by the subject they constantly seek out some smidgeon of adverse news about the effects of lockdowns.

Lockdowns may well be unpleasant and will always cause issues but unfortunately in times of maximum risk they will always be required to be deployed as a defence of last resort.

You really aren’t thinking clearly again, and do you have kids to even comment :hehe:

I don’t think you have a clue what people with children went through and as an aside it’s not a hatred at all, it’s more the fact that many many people who called out the policy from the start and were labelled all sorts, but clearly from what is being allowed to be released from the public enquiry the same people are being proved correct.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I don’t accept it was a worldwide problem western societies definitely though , Many of African carried on relatively normally and escaped lightly, but this could be due to the lack of testing and societal distrust in governments.

That's the key

You are a conspiracy theorist

And think the pandemic wasn't as such and that the injections didn't apply to you

Not because you had an underlying health condition .....as many people have .....but because you have too much access to Google

As soon as you start from that point it all falls apart

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I don't think you have a grasp of the extent of the issue here. And in terms of growing up, I don't appreciate that one bit because I recognise and want to help people impacted by things in recent years.

You need to get over any ideological issue that may be real (or may be in your head) in respect of a thread on a messageboard and realise our younger generation is in need of help due to policies put in place in recent years. This IS a thread about the impact on children. That it wasn't started by someone ideologically pure enough for you says more about your priorities, not anyone else's. I couldn't care less who started the thread.

Quite an extraordinary outlook from you tbh. This isn't about the lockdown. That's the past. This is the future and the issues are real.

The problems some young people are facing as a consequence of the lockdowns are real. If all you have to say is tough luck, or pull your socks up, then fair enough, you've said your piece. But telling others to "grow up" isnt helpful to anyone whatsoever.

My kids were largely fine thankfully. Some of my friends kids really were not. I have friends who are teachers who have said some kids have regressed years.

You recognise and want to help ......your words

We don't?

That's incredibly sanctimonious

Leave these big issues to those directly involved or give up work , give up your time to mentor stressed out kids or write a thesis

You are no better than some bloke in the street on this matter

[TWGL1]

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That's the key

You are a conspiracy theorist

And think the pandemic wasn't as such and that the injections didn't apply to you

Not because you had an underlying health condition .....as many people have .....but because you have too much access to Google

As soon as you start from that point it all falls apart

You’re a self appointed government deputy , if I recall you wanted all unvaccinated to undertake unpaid slave Labour, which you took great delight in. I can’t take anything you say seriously more-so when you think you know a few of the boys when in reality you were one of the hangers Sludgey boy.

If conspiracy is the best you can come up with , then that just about sums you up.

[JamesWales]

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That's the key

You are a conspiracy theorist

And think the pandemic wasn't as such and that the injections didn't apply to you

Not because you had an underlying health condition .....as many people have .....but because you have too much access to Google

As soon as you start from that point it all falls apart

Nothing on here has suggested you or Dorcus recognise the problem and both have dismissed it as a part of lockdown and kids need to be more resilient etc.

And that's fine if that's your view. I'll just file it under the other long list of things I am proud to disagree with you on.

But the issue of the impact of lockdowns on kids is absolutely real and being told to "grow up" by a man who is more interested in the political affiliation of the OP than the serious matter at hand grates a lot. It doesn't matter whether you support lockdowns or not, there were pros and cons of them like all policies, but this discussion is about one of the very real cons.

Here's a Kings College London study on it. It's findings are a little different to yours.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/an-isolated-generation-the-impact-of-covid-19-on-children-and-young-people

[Heathblue]

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You really aren’t thinking clearly again, and do you have kids to even comment :hehe:

I don’t think you have a clue what people with children went through and as an aside it’s not a hatred at all, it’s more the fact that many many people who called out the policy from the start and were labelled all sorts, but clearly from what is being allowed to be released from the public enquiry the same people are being proved correct.

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[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You’re a self appointed government deputy , if I recall you wanted all unvaccinated to undertake unpaid slave Labour, which you took great delight in. I can’t take anything you say seriously more-so when you think you know a few of the boys when in reality you were one of the hangers Sludgey boy.

If conspiracy is the best you can come up with , then that just about sums you up.

I would do more than slave labour

But failing that fine them

You are too old to be talking about football aggro

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Nothing on here has suggested you or Dorcus recognise the problem and both have dismissed it as a part of lockdown and kids need to be more resilient etc.

And that's fine if that's your view. I'll just file it under the other long list of things I am proud to disagree with you on.

But the issue of the impact of lockdowns on kids is absolutely real and being told to "grow up" by a man who is more interested in the political affiliation of the OP than the serious matter at hand grates a lot. It doesn't matter whether you support lockdowns or not, there were pros and cons of them like all policies, but this discussion is about one of the very real cons.

Here's a Kings College London study on it. It's findings are a little different to yours.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/an-isolated-ge...d-young-people

Get out of here

Old people died

And some people helped it kill them by failing to isolate and get a jab

Suffer little children

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Lockdown - harmful to children

Ironically none of the people who are screeching 'think of the kids' have actually outlined what they think the main issues are and are just using it as a way to get on their high horse. I don't have children but I number crunch for a local authority children's services department and so fully aware of the issues out there, recently the biggest for us has been to locate a bunch of kids who haven't officially gone EHE but have off rolled from school over the past few years essentially slipping through the net (obviously a massive safeguarding issue). Systems aren't joined up and government policy has allowed/encouraged a disconnect between LA and school, without the DFE picking up the slack.

We were seeing a massive increase in children with additional needs pre-pandemic and it looks like it is increasing at a faster rate now, some probably lockdown related but it is important to note that this is the continuing of a trend. Thankfully there is finally more funding for those performing the statutory side of things around children with SEN but this will come at the expensive of other budgets in an already stretched environment and as ever early intervention will trump a reactive solution every time.

[JamesWales]

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Get out of here

Old people died

And some people helped it kill them by failing to isolate and get a jab

Suffer little children

We. Aren't. Talking. About. The. Lockdown

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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We. Aren't. Talking. About. The. Lockdown

Yes you are

It's the title of the thread and the content of most of your posts you complete jellyhead