40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[truthpaste]

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Strange then that the USSR and Czechoslovakia were the nations that initially armed the Israelis for a decade and a half after 1948.

The USA only became the main military, financial and diplomatic backer of Israel in the early 1960s.

I suppose everyone was reading different books from you back then? They didn't get the 'end game scenario' memo.

I referenced the end-game scenario, what does the 1940's and 1960's specifically have to do with the final page of human history?

[Jordi Culé]

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The alliance between Russia and the Arab nations has been expected as an end-game scenario for almost 3000 years. This is the latest position > Russia's stern warning to Netanyahu: Israel shouldn't even consider attacking Iran's nuclear facilities

NB: "Russia has strengthened ties with the Islamic Republic since the start of its war in Ukraine and is preparing to sign a major partnership agreement with Tehran".

I bet Wash DC Blue didn't envisage the Book of Revelations 'End of Days' being an answer?

[jon1959]

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I referenced the end-game scenario, what does the 1940's and 1960's specifically have to do with the final page of human history?

It’s a puzzle, isn’t it.

Remind me, when is ‘the final page of human history’ due?

[truthpaste]

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I bet Wash DC Blue didn't envisage the Book of Revelations 'End of Days' being an answer?

Ezekiel 38 in the OT would be the key chapter in this case, while Revelation chapters 6 to 19 provide the details of the events that will follow this all out attack on Israel.

[Dorcus]

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Ezekiel 38 in the OT would be the key chapter in this case, while Revelation chapters 6 to 19 provide the details of the events that will follow this all out attack on Israel.

I'm not sure Ezekiel ever said "Rejoice in the bloodlust; take every ounce of joy from the glorious action of decapitating and blowing apart those women and children that are so far from the gaze of God that they are irrelevant. Total belief in the power of God to maim and kill the unbelievers is our salvation to everlasting life"

[truthpaste]

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I'm not sure Ezekiel ever said "Rejoice in the bloodlust; take every ounce of joy from the glorious action of decapitating and blowing apart those women and children that are so far from the gaze of God that they are irrelevant. Total belief in the power of God to maim and kill the unbelievers is our salvation to everlasting life"

That quote or sentiment isn't found in any Biblical prophecy, however for sound reasons God has ordered the destruction of certain groups of people in other points in history. Furthermore, no individuals are irrelevant to God, chiefly because He Himself suffered and died for each one of them in Christ, so that they needn't suffer the consequences of their natural rebellion; which are no different to those of mine or yours.

[Jordi Culé]

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I'm not sure Ezekiel ever said "Rejoice in the bloodlust; take every ounce of joy from the glorious action of decapitating and blowing apart those women and children that are so far from the gaze of God that they are irrelevant. Total belief in the power of God to maim and kill the unbelievers is our salvation to everlasting life"

If not Ezekiel was that quote fron Netanyahu or one of the mentalists he has in his Israeli government?

[Dorcus]

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If not Ezekiel was that quote fron Netanyahu or one of the mentalists he has in his Israeli government?

You're right, those be dem guys!

[Dorcus]

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That quote or sentiment isn't found in any Biblical prophecy, however for sound reasons God has ordered the destruction of certain groups of people in other points in history. Furthermore, no individuals are irrelevant to God, chiefly because He Himself suffered and died for each one of them in Christ, so that they needn't suffer the consequences of their natural rebellion; which are no different to those of mine or yours.

If God Is Love why should He order the destruction of certain groups of people? I think you are confusing God with tyrants usurping His name here.

[truthpaste]

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If God Is Love why should He order the destruction of certain groups of people? I think you are confusing God with tyrants usurping His name here.

No confusion. "God is love" - however God is not just love, He is Just too. He doesn't judge people as humans do, on appearances or limited evidence, He judges the hearts of people, so is able to judge and act unlike anyone else.
If God were a tyrant then why would pay the cost of our Salvation on the Cross and in doing so offer everyone (including those who spend time here opposing Him) a secure and undeserved eternity?

[Dorcus]

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No confusion. "God is love" - however God is not just love, He is Just too. He doesn't judge people as humans do, on appearances or limited evidence, He judges the hearts of people, so is able to judge and act unlike anyone else.
If God were a tyrant then why would pay the cost of our Salvation on the Cross and in doing so offer everyone (including those who spend time here opposing Him) a secure and undeserved eternity?

If God were just he wouldn't order the destruction of certain groups of people. I believe if there is a God he/she/it must be just. I think you are confusing God's will with selfish human cravings for power and status. The only orders for the destruction of certain groups of people have come from humans who have cynically used God's name to support their cause.

[truthpaste]

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If God were just he wouldn't order the destruction of certain groups of people. I believe if there is a God he/she/it must be just. I think you are confusing God's will with selfish human cravings for power and status. The only orders for the destruction of certain groups of people have come from humans who have cynically used God's name to support their cause.

That's your perspective and you are entitled to your opinion.
Out of interest, if your world view has no god, why do you seek justice at all?
Wouldn't we all be molecules in motion until we all become compost?

[Dorcus]

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That's your perspective and you are entitled to your opinion.
Out of interest, if your world view has no god, why do you seek justice at all?
Wouldn't we all be molecules in motion until we all become compost?

Not at all and I didn't say my world view has no God. I cannot prove nor disprove it.

However, justice is an intrinsic factor in human sensibility and whether or not individuals remain as compost is irrelevant. The relevance is only to the here and now.

[truthpaste]

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Not at all and I didn't say my world view has no God. I cannot prove nor disprove it.

However, justice is an intrinsic factor in human sensibility and whether or not individuals remain as compost is irrelevant. The relevance is only to the here and now.

But in the here and now you have not explained why humans have a sense of justice if we are NOT made to ideally reflect and practice the values and standards of our Creator?

[Dorcus]

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But in the here and now you have not explained why humans have a sense of justice if we are NOT made to ideally reflect and practice the values and standards of our Creator?

Isn't it obvious to you?