20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

[TWGL1]

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Well I can’t tell their voting intentions. But certainly at more of a folicly challenged time of life where change is difficult. I didn’t think the weather was that bad, I wonder what else affected the turnout?

Funny that the people I know who voted ( part of the 400,000 plus) are nothing like the ones in the photo you mentioned. Cool story bro

[superfeathers]

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Funny that the people I know who voted ( part of the 400,000 plus) are nothing like the ones in the photo you mentioned. Cool story bro

But the only ones who thought they’d actually do something, something that would take longer than a click of a mouse button, something meaningful, who felt
Their time was worth it, were.

I wonder what the percentage of those who voted turned out to protest is. It’d be good to know the numbers who attended as maybe the other protests had thousands more than this photo would suggest

Who attended from this board - you and north Cardiff blue did I’m sure but who else?

[superfeathers]

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just as an aside, I read the live reporting of the South Wales protest and I encourage you to read it in full. But the highlights:

10:47 - They're off - entered the m4
10:50 - The convoy seems to have broken up
10:55 - the go-slow protestors are not going slow (did they forget?)
11:03 - the police are leading the protestors off at the A48 exit at Cardiff. There seems to be some confusion because some thought they would be going down the a470!
11:07 the "go slow" protestors are now being forced to go slow because the traffic is already so bad
12:46 Protesters gather outside senedd. Annette Jones who organised the convoy said "Drakeford and mr waters gave us a month and (said) we'll be used to it but the turn out today, more than the last convoy - people are certainly not getting used to it and getting more angry and frustrated. Our voices are not being listened to".

The number of protestors outside the senedd? Less than 50.
At this point, someone's waving a "Welsh Lives Matter" flag. FML.

After posing for photos outside the Senedd, protesters engaged in a discussion about how to proceed with with further protests. Some suggested arranging a piss up in a brewery may be more of a success.

If that's the country up in arms, I think maybe people don't care as much as we think.

[TWGL1]

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But the only ones who thought they’d actually do something, something that would take longer than a click of a mouse button, something meaningful, who felt
Their time was worth it, were.

I wonder what the percentage of those who voted turned out to protest is. It’d be good to know the numbers who attended as maybe the other protests had thousands more than this photo would suggest

Who attended from this board - you and north Cardiff blue did I’m sure but who else?

I didn’t , I went to the match with my wife and family and a few friends

Just don’t distract from the fact that 400,000 plus of the electorate are not happy with the diktat. Just because its a click of a mouse button doesn’t mean it’s any less democratic.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

just as an aside, I read the live reporting of the South Wales protest and I encourage you to read it in full. But the highlights:

10:47 - They're off - entered the m4
10:50 - The convoy seems to have broken up
10:55 - the go-slow protestors are not going slow (did they forget?)
11:03 - the police are leading the protestors off at the A48 exit at Cardiff. There seems to be some confusion because some thought they would be going down the a470!
11:07 the "go slow" protestors are now being forced to go slow because the traffic is already so bad
12:46 Protesters gather outside senedd. Annette Jones who organised the convoy said "Drakeford and mr waters gave us a month and (said) we'll be used to it but the turn out today, more than the last convoy - people are certainly not getting used to it and getting more angry and frustrated. Our voices are not being listened to".

The number of protestors outside the senedd? Less than 50.
At this point, someone's waving a "Welsh Lives Matter" flag. FML.

After posing for photos outside the Senedd, protesters engaged in a discussion about how to proceed with with further protests. Some suggested arranging a piss up in a brewery may be more of a success.

If that's the country up in arms, I think maybe people don't care as much as we think.

There are unconfirmed report that the protestors were chanting "From the river to the sea, Welsh roads will be free..."

I'm expecting a nervous breakdown of epic proportions from some contributors of this board. They're obviously calling for Drakeford to be wiped off the face of the earth.

I myself are livid about this and care not one iota that driving at a stupidly slow speed on a motorway could indeed cost lives.

It's not really on is it?

[superfeathers]

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I didn’t , I went to the match with my wife and family and a few friends

Just don’t distract from the fact that 400,000 plus of the electorate are not happy with the diktat. Just because its a click of a mouse button doesn’t mean it’s any less democratic.

Ah that's a shame I just presumed you did. If something bothered me that much I would have.
As it goes they were done and dusted within walking distance of the ground two hours before the game, could've got a meal in with the family and friends and still had time to spare

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

There are unconfirmed report that the protestors were chanting "From the river to the sea, Welsh roads will be free..."

I'm expecting a nervous breakdown of epic proportions from some contributors of this board. They're obviously calling for Drakeford to be wiped off the face of the earth.

I myself are livid about this and care not one iota that driving at a stupidly slow speed on a motorway could indeed cost lives.

It's not really on is it?

They're obviously calling for Drakeford to be wiped off the face of the earth.

Just out of office would do, and banned from Wales would be a bonus.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

just as an aside, I read the live reporting of the South Wales protest and I encourage you to read it in full. But the highlights:

10:47 - They're off - entered the m4
10:50 - The convoy seems to have broken up
10:55 - the go-slow protestors are not going slow (did they forget?)
11:03 - the police are leading the protestors off at the A48 exit at Cardiff. There seems to be some confusion because some thought they would be going down the a470!
11:07 the "go slow" protestors are now being forced to go slow because the traffic is already so bad
12:46 Protesters gather outside senedd. Annette Jones who organised the convoy said "Drakeford and mr waters gave us a month and (said) we'll be used to it but the turn out today, more than the last convoy - people are certainly not getting used to it and getting more angry and frustrated. Our voices are not being listened to".

The number of protestors outside the senedd? Less than 50.
At this point, someone's waving a "Welsh Lives Matter" flag. FML.

After posing for photos outside the Senedd, protesters engaged in a discussion about how to proceed with with further protests. Some suggested arranging a piss up in a brewery may be more of a success.

If that's the country up in arms, I think maybe people don't care as much as we think.

Because it's pointless it's a dictatorship, they don't care what people think.

[Rjk]

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how did this protest go anyway? doesn't seem to have garnered much attention?

I read somewhere that the protest in North Wales was attended by 3 cars !

[Dorcus]

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Hopefully all this will die down now.

[superfeathers]

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Because it's pointless it's a dictatorship, they don't care what people think.

Why did they all click their mouse buttons in anger then if there's no point?
Surely, like you, they should have got up saturday morning and done something, given that the majority of Wales is up in arms
Although yes, comical, I do feel sorry for you and the other 49 who were badly let down on Saturday.

[Former Labour leader]

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I've got a long memory and these protests reminds me of the protests over petrol prices in 2001.
The thing then was political posturing by a handful of people, mainly farmers, designed to try to bring down a popular Labour government.
Exactly the same now. On the back of ULEZ, AndrewRTDavies saw an opportunity to damage the Labour Government in Cardiff, despite having wholeheartedly endorsed the policy.
The law is not perfect, but it is designed to save lives and not line the pockets of its donors and supporters.
Of you don't like it complain to your AM and if that doesn't change things the way you would like them to, vote for the party who will abolish these 20mph limits at the next Senedd elections.

[TWGL1]

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Ah that's a shame I just presumed you did. If something bothered me that much I would have.
As it goes they were done and dusted within walking distance of the ground two hours before the game, could've got a meal in with the family and friends and still had time to spare

Who said it bothered that much , clearly it bothers you more knowing that you have difficulties accepting other peoples views.

Must be tough for you at times.

[superfeathers]

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Who said it bothered that much , clearly it bothers you more knowing that you have difficulties accepting other peoples views.

Must be tough for you at times.

I’ve said quite a number of times that I’ve teetered on the edge with this one, have listened to lots of views about it, and as a motorist it can be a bit frustrating but as a father I’ve concluded I’m pleased with it.

Quite accepting that other people will have other views (given it took me a while to get to this point) but when you and others talk about 400k people knowing how to use a mouse as being the majority of Wales, it’s a bit farcical that less than 50 people turn up to a protest about it, on a Saturday..

[TWGL1]

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I’ve said quite a number of times that I’ve teetered on the edge with this one, have listened to lots of views about it, and as a motorist it can be a bit frustrating but as a father I’ve concluded I’m pleased with it.

Quite accepting that other people will have other views (given it took me a while to get to this point) but when you and others talk about 400k people knowing how to use a mouse as being the majority of Wales, it’s a bit farcical that less than 50 people turn up to a protest about it, on a Saturday..

Did they need to turn up, probably not , moreover ,if you’re taking about farcical, the whole Welsh Assembly was voted in by 51/49% with a record low turnout. (They should have another referendum) and the 400,000 signatures are likely to be ignored.