Why is it with the Tories we have

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I don’t think so , take a look at your last paragraph…..ultimately people can vote for who they want without being piled on.

I’m voting conservative next time

What a surprise 😲

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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In my opinion Labour still has a different and more progressive DNA than the Tories (and the Lib Dems) but that is eroding.

I despise Blair and Starmer and their groupies, funders and enablers. Despise is not too strong a word for the war crimes of Blair or the war crime enabling of Starmer (and the serial lying).

I was a Labour member for 30 years over 3 spells - most of my adult life - but no longer. I have a lot of time for many ordinary Labour supporters - most of whom are also trades unionists, campaigners or tenant organisers. As long as Labour has its roots feet in the trades union movement I believe passing personalities or policies can be corrected from below.

If Labour cuts its ties to the trades unions and relies for funding and political direction on big donors (the direction of travel as individual subscriptions and donations have dropped drastically to be replaced by rich individuals, corporate donors and lobbyists) it will be no different from other parties - and I won't feel any residual obligation to vote for them. We're not there yet.

I always sense a feeling of doom when I see/hear the word 'progressive'. A bit of a cloaking device to hide a host of different ideas..

[NinianOpinion1927]

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Oh look, we’ve got a new multi.

I'm not a multi

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Stop The Boats

If 100000 have successfully used this passage since 2018 then it would appear that around 20000 people per year are coming

So given that migration is 600000 per year into the UK shouldn't it be pretty easy to deal with this without telling the country lies that we are being invaded by sea ?

20000 v 580000 ?

It's almost like the Tories are trying to scare people into voting for them

Gosh they would try that trick would they ?

[TWGL1]

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You surprise me (not).

And ?

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And ?

It's no good playing the oh I am open minded politically card if you are a tory , especially after the last 13 years

I think you have got to be incredibly stupid or a raving tory to vote for them but it's up to you

At least you know where you stand with me , I absolutely will never vote Tory and if I had to vote monster raving , green , Liberal, Labour or whatever to keep them out I would

You however seem to be voting for the Tories and its not really a surprise to many who read your posts ?

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It's no good playing the oh I am open minded politically card if you are a tory , especially after the last 13 years

I think you have got to be incredibly stupid or a raving tory to vote for them but it's up to you

At least you know where you stand with me , I absolutely will never vote Tory and if I had to vote monster raving , green , Liberal, Labour or whatever to keep them out I would

You however seem to be voting for the Tories and its not really a surprise to many who read your posts ?

That’s an assumption to make . I think in a general election is probably best to keep an open mind , but definitely on a local level.

The present incumbents are a shower , but as a household we are probably marginally better off, although that could change of course.

I’ve got nothing in common with any M.P and it’s not as if we are spoilt for choice and I definitely disliked the Conservative and Labour parties for their lockstep diktats and policies during Covid.

Why don’t you put your hat in the ring

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That’s an assumption to make . I think in a general election is probably best to keep an open mind , but definitely on a local level.

The present incumbents are a shower , but as a household we are probably marginally better off, although that could change of course.

I’ve got nothing in common with any M.P and it’s not as if we are spoilt for choice and I definitely disliked the Conservative and Labour parties for their lockstep diktats and policies during Covid.

Why don’t you put your hat in the ring

I would be looking for an anyone but tory candidate or merger of the labour and liberal party or Proportional Reprsentation so maybe one day there will be a place for me and I will take over after a power struggle

Until then it's whoever has a chance of beating the enemy

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I would be looking for an anyone but tory candidate or merger of the labour and liberal party or Proportional Reprsentation so maybe one day there will be a place for me and I will take over after a power struggle

Until then it's whoever has a chance of beating the enemy

Just remember they all have many of same political views and policies give or take the odd thing. I actually Hope Labour get in and prove many people wrong but they can’t change that much.

Gordon Brown proved that

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Just remember they all have many of same political views and policies give or take the odd thing. I actually Hope Labour get in and prove many people wrong but they can’t change that much.

Gordon Brown proved that

I hope labour get in and change the voting system , if they don't then I am voting green

[life on mars]

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In respect of your last paragraph,I take it you also despise Labour ,particularly with the role it played in the conflict in Iraq?

Also Starmer doesn’t appear keen on a ceasefire in Gaza.

Exactly , FALSE CRAP , the party lABOUR HATES is the party they will vote for, just a change of rosette , Jon's NEW found love in , with the centralist left dross is stunning Sludge just say I agree Jon as TOBW ,FFS wheres the revolution?

Old Labour hacks now pushed out by Blair Starmer left of centre veering towards a lite blue .. lets hope all these big Tory haters dont vote for lite Tory in the next election as it would be deemed as totally hypocrisy . I d suggest to real Labour voters vote for the Communist party this time around , they didn't stand last time around as Marxist Jezzer rants appealed to them ,

The far left are the Tories gift that keeps giving ,the Lite Left Tory Labour realised that very quickly as handing Boris a 80 seat majority whcih spoke volumes about the off putting of fatre left freak jobs , they want certrailst and they will get that in the next parliament ..


Starmer is singing from the Tory hymn book , trying desperately to tempt back white van man , what difference will he offer to the current lot, nothing , you see the same opposition bench tapping each other on the back ,or they sussing out where best to thrust their blade , i love the picture of Stamerm , Cooper , Reeves striding purposely to meetings ,so bloody false and staged ,where is the rest of the crew or is just them three ?

Hypocrisy is oozing out of Labour voters, well said Jon , woof ,woof , bah , bah

[jon1959]

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I always sense a feeling of doom when I see/hear the word 'progressive'. A bit of a cloaking device to hide a host of different ideas..

Progressive ones?

[the other bob wilson]

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Exactly , FALSE CRAP , the party lABOUR HATES is the party they will vote for, just a change of rosette , Jon's NEW found love in , with the centralist left dross is stunning Sludge just say I agree Jon as TOBW ,FFS wheres the revolution?

Old Labour hacks now pushed out by Blair Starmer left of centre veering towards a lite blue .. lets hope all these big Tory haters dont vote for lite Tory in the next election as it would be deemed as totally hypocrisy . I d suggest to real Labour voters vote for the Communist party this time around , they didn't stand last time around as Marxist Jezzer rants appealed to them ,

The far left are the Tories gift that keeps giving ,the Lite Left Tory Labour realised that very quickly as handing Boris a 80 seat majority whcih spoke volumes about the off putting of fatre left freak jobs , they want certrailst and they will get that in the next parliament ..


Starmer is singing from the Tory hymn book , trying desperately to tempt back white van man , what difference will he offer to the current lot, nothing , you see the same opposition bench tapping each other on the back ,or they sussing out where best to thrust their blade , i love the picture of Stamerm , Cooper , Reeves striding purposely to meetings ,so bloody false and staged ,where is the rest of the crew or is just them three ?

Hypocrisy is oozing out of Labour voters, well said Jon , woof ,woof , bah , bah

I think a lie down in a darkened room is called for.

[jon1959]

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Exactly , FALSE CRAP , the party lABOUR HATES is the party they will vote for, just a change of rosette , Jon's NEW found love in , with the centralist left dross is stunning Sludge just say I agree Jon as TOBW ,FFS wheres the revolution?

Old Labour hacks now pushed out by Blair Starmer left of centre veering towards a lite blue .. lets hope all these big Tory haters dont vote for lite Tory in the next election as it would be deemed as totally hypocrisy . I d suggest to real Labour voters vote for the Communist party this time around , they didn't stand last time around as Marxist Jezzer rants appealed to them ,

The far left are the Tories gift that keeps giving ,the Lite Left Tory Labour realised that very quickly as handing Boris a 80 seat majority whcih spoke volumes about the off putting of fatre left freak jobs , they want certrailst and they will get that in the next parliament ..


Starmer is singing from the Tory hymn book , trying desperately to tempt back white van man , what difference will he offer to the current lot, nothing , you see the same opposition bench tapping each other on the back ,or they sussing out where best to thrust their blade , i love the picture of Stamerm , Cooper , Reeves striding purposely to meetings ,so bloody false and staged ,where is the rest of the crew or is just them three ?

Hypocrisy is oozing out of Labour voters, well said Jon , woof ,woof , bah , bah

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Exactly , FALSE CRAP , the party lABOUR HATES is the party they will vote for, just a change of rosette , Jon's NEW found love in , with the centralist left dross is stunning Sludge just say I agree Jon as TOBW ,FFS wheres the revolution?

Old Labour hacks now pushed out by Blair Starmer left of centre veering towards a lite blue .. lets hope all these big Tory haters dont vote for lite Tory in the next election as it would be deemed as totally hypocrisy . I d suggest to real Labour voters vote for the Communist party this time around , they didn't stand last time around as Marxist Jezzer rants appealed to them ,

The far left are the Tories gift that keeps giving ,the Lite Left Tory Labour realised that very quickly as handing Boris a 80 seat majority whcih spoke volumes about the off putting of fatre left freak jobs , they want certrailst and they will get that in the next parliament ..


Starmer is singing from the Tory hymn book , trying desperately to tempt back white van man , what difference will he offer to the current lot, nothing , you see the same opposition bench tapping each other on the back ,or they sussing out where best to thrust their blade , i love the picture of Stamerm , Cooper , Reeves striding purposely to meetings ,so bloody false and staged ,where is the rest of the crew or is just them three ?

Hypocrisy is oozing out of Labour voters, well said Jon , woof ,woof , bah , bah

You are completely off your cake sonny