You gov polling

[Gofer Blue]

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Here's an example which I think will be an eye opener to many older folk on here - https://old.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAte...ies_that_left/

It's an eye opener alright - if only to read the kind of foul language used by the anti-boomers when talking about in-laws etc!
Thankfully my wife and I have a great relationship with our children and grandchildren and we help them as much as we can. Yes, we grew up in what I would call a golden age but we didn't have much say in the matter of course so do I need to apologise for that?

[life on mars]

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Worth a read of the link below.

A few experts believe as it gets nearer to the election Mr (say nothing ) Sir Kier will becomes more visible and his frailties as will his cabinet , policies , coziness with Tory / Blair like policies
( at the moment god knows what those policies are )

I think we are seeing whats known as soft polling , where folk are lashing out , moaning , lazy , lying , no one really believes that Labour has anything new to offer , if they offer Wales as a good example god helps us ??


Quote:: Remember – in June 2019 the Tories won 9% of the national vote in the European Parliament elections, but six months later they won a landslide at the general election.

The Tories can be a very nasty bunch come election time , its best not to write them , over confidence is a real thing ..

No wonder Sir Kier wanted Boris gone, best we hope he doesn't reappear in a Trump like form , as he is made for that stump electable stuff...

https://www.compassonline.org.uk/six-reasons-why-labour-might-not-win-the-next-election-alone/

[NinianOpinion1927]

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only a small proportion of the rise in housing prices is attributed to immigration, I think it was something like 20% over the last 20 years

That's not true, we've added 7 million to our population since the early 00s. Are you telling me That's had a small impact on house prices? Nonesense. You need to check the political agenda of your sources

[NinianOpinion1927]

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I'll just leave this here...

https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news...20the%20policy.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/29/how-right-to-buy-ruined-british-housing

Whose policy was it again?

"I'll leave that there" this your big mic drop moment Jordi? 😆

The hňusing crisis is caused by the explosion of immigration numbers since Labour came to power in 1997.

[the other bob wilson]

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"I'll leave that there" this your big mic drop moment Jordi? ��

The hňusing crisis is caused by the explosion of immigration numbers since Labour came to power in 1997.

If there was an “explosion” (I remember you lecturing me recently for using such an emotive word in relation to the use of food banks in this country when you claimed the UK Government should be given credit for this) of immigration from 1997, what do you call what has happened since 2010?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/283287/net-migration-figures-of-the-united-kingdom-y-on-y/

[the other bob wilson]

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Worth a read of the link below.

A few experts believe as it gets nearer to the election Mr (say nothing ) Sir Kier will becomes more visible and his frailties as will his cabinet , policies , coziness with Tory / Blair like policies
( at the moment god knows what those policies are )

I think we are seeing whats known as soft polling , where folk are lashing out , moaning , lazy , lying , no one really believes that Labour has anything new to offer , if they offer Wales as a good example god helps us ??


Quote:: Remember – in June 2019 the Tories won 9% of the national vote in the European Parliament elections, but six months later they won a landslide at the general election.

The Tories can be a very nasty bunch come election time , its best not to write them , over confidence is a real thing ..

No wonder Sir Kier wanted Boris gone, best we hope he doesn't reappear in a Trump like form , as he is made for that stump electable stuff...

https://www.compassonline.org.uk/six...lection-alone/

While many of the points in the article still read true now, the situation has not changed at all in terms of the gap between the parties in the year since it was published - in fact, recent polling has the Labour lead increasing slightly and Sunak's personal ratings fell during 2023.

Things can still change and anyone who says there is absolutely no chance of the Conservatives forming, or being part of, the next Government is daft, but the reasons why that could happen, as outlined in the article, have to be weaker now than they were in January 2023 because the whole of that year has passed and the political landscape for the Government has grown bleaker.

[Jordi Culé]

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"I'll leave that there" this your big mic drop moment Jordi? 😆

The hňusing crisis is caused by the explosion of immigration numbers since Labour came to power in 1997.

Are these the same immigration numbers that have continued to go up under the last 14 years of Tory rule with net migration into the UK also higher?

Good to see Cameron, Johnson, May, Truss and Sunak all had it all under control.

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[Citizen's Nephew]

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Are these the same immigration numbers that have continued to go up under the last 14 years of Tory rule with net migration into the UK also higher?

Good to see Cameron, Johnson, May, Truss and Sunak all had it all under control.

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[Wales-Bales]

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Are these the same immigration numbers that have continued to go up under the last 14 years of Tory rule with net migration into the UK also higher?

Good to see Cameron, Johnson, May, Truss and Sunak all had it all under control.

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Immigration numbers are rising fast in all western countries, so you may want to look into that instead of specific cases.

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[Jordi Culé]

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Immigration numbers are rising fast in all western countries, so you may want to look into that instead of specific cases.

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What?

I thought we were 'taking back control' of our borders.

We were discussing the UK so it is specific. Sorry about that butt.

I didn't bring it up, your butty did but as I read it.

Immigration into the UK under a Labour government is Labour's fault.

Immigration into the UK under consecutive Conservative governments is Labour's, conspiring circumstances and anything else's fault.

Ah, I see that now. Cheers for clearing that up.

[Wales-Bales]

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What?

I thought we were 'taking back control' of our borders.

We were discussing the UK so it is specific. Sorry about that butt.

I didn't bring it up, your butty did but as I read it.

Immigration into the UK under a Labour government is Labour's fault.

Immigration into the UK under consecutive Conservative governments is Labour's, conspiring circumstances and anything else's fault.

Ah, I see that now. Cheers for clearing that up.

Yeah butt, but it's happening globally butt, so maybe you should investigate that butt. Cheers butt.

[Jordi Culé]

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Yeah butt, but it's happening globally butt, so maybe you should investigate that butt. Cheers butt.

Ouch, you bitch *laughing*

So 'Taking back control' isn't working then. (I thought the whole point was so the UK could protect itself better from outside influences and external factors?)

Cheers for confirming that butt.

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[NinianOpinion1927]

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Are these the same immigration numbers that have continued to go up under the last 14 years of Tory rule with net migration into the UK also higher?

Good to see Cameron, Johnson, May, Truss and Sunak all had it all under control.

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You won't draw me into the blinkered Tory versus Labour rubbish. And don't be one of those fruitcakes like "RJK" who refuse to accept that adding 7 million immigrants to the population doesn't affect house prices much.
The Tories have sustained the crazy immigration numbers started by Labour, despite pledging in manifesto's to reduce immigration drastically. Brexit was a massive message to our elites that the electorate wanted tighter immigration, instead immigration increased.
This is why i think democracy is fake and broken and why, if i were to vote, i'd be voting Reform Party. The best of a bad bunch but we need to tighten our grip on immigration

[Wales-Bales]

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Ouch, you bitch *laughing*

So 'Taking back control' isn't working then. (I thought the whole point was so the UK could protect itself better from outside influences and external factors?)

Cheers for confirming that butt.

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A wise old person once advised me that we should be weary of new shiny objects ...

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[NinianOpinion1927]

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If there was an “explosion” (I remember you lecturing me recently for using such an emotive word in relation to the use of food banks in this country when you claimed the UK Government should be given credit for this) of immigration from 1997, what do you call what has happened since 2010?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ingdom-y-on-y/

Unfortunately immigration has caused literal "explosions" on our homeland, killing many.