Welsh Elections 2021 poll

[the other bob wilson]

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I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

Why would you like to vote Labour? You do know there are other parties besides Conservatives, Labour and Plaid do you?

[Whisperer]

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None of the above should be added to every ballot paper - imho

[bobh]

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Can you imagine Andrew RT Davies in charge? Why doesn't he call himself Andrew Davies?

Perhaps he just wants to appear to be "arty"

[WJ99mobile]

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Why would you like to vote Labour? You do know there are other parties besides Conservatives, Labour and Plaid do you?

I know the hypocrisy/stupidity but it really is a wasted vote

If voting was mandatory and turnout was 75%+ then it would be a different story but it's not and a vote for propel is a waste of time when you just know they're not going to be around come the following elections

[Rjk]

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I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

what is the rubbish that Drakeford has done?

which Tories in Wales have impressed you?

[The Bloop]

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Can you imagine Andrew RT Davies in charge? Why doesn't he call himself Andrew Davies?

It's quite a scary proposition, but I can't see that happening.
Like a few others it'll probably be Plaid for me. Labour could have done themselves a favour and got a new leader in before the election. Having someone like Eluned Morgan or Ken Skates in charge now might have helped their cause.

[Elwood Blues]

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None of the above should be added to every ballot paper - imho

I agree

[BLUETIT]

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Abolish wasn't an option when I first voted.

Get rid of the lot of um and build houses/tower blocks, where take silly looking wooden building is.

[Rjk]

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someone I know who works in Westminster was told back in December that it was "quite likely" that these upcoming elections would deliver a Tory majority in Wales.

i said that was a load of nonsense. I hope I was right.

[WJ99mobile]

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what is the rubbish that Drakeford has done?

which Tories in Wales have impressed you?

I'm not going to give my entire political viewpoint over the internet but there are both things that a local and national level that alter my view

Tories at a national level have heavily supported the sector I work in as well as a pro-Brexit agenda which a lot of Wales voted for.

Welsh Labour are doing some things that I agree with such as taking in to public ownership the trains and Cardiff airport and then shoot themselves in the foot with the M4 relief road and various other infrastructure projects that have failed due to environmental concerns (which I'll admit is really not a concern of mine)

My bigger gripe is more to do with Labour at a national level.

I'll admit - I probably do want a 'Tory Party-Lite' without all the rubbish the Tory party comes with

[WJ99mobile]

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someone I know who works in Westminster was told back in December that it was "quite likely" that these upcoming elections would deliver a Tory majority in Wales.

i said that was a load of nonsense. I hope I was right.

Can't see it personally but the polls seem to think so

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/poll-drakeford-labour-senedd-election-20234184

Based on uniform national swings, the regional list seats would split as follows:

North Wales: 1 Labour, 1 Plaid, 1 Conservative, 1 Abolish the Assembly
Mid and West Wales: 2 Labour, 1 Conservative, 1 Abolish the Assembly
South Wales West: 2 Conservative, 2 Plaid
South Wales Central: 2 Conservative, 1 Plaid, 1 Abolish the Assembly
South Wales East: 2 Conservative, 1 Plaid, 1 Abolish the Assembly
Overall, Labour would win 22 seats, the Conservatives 19, Plaid Cymru 14 , Abolish the Assembly 4 and the Liberal Democrats 1.

I do not see the voting going quite that way

[Hilts]

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I really dont want to vote.

I cant wake up after the election and see Andrew R T Davies elected and have not voted.

I thought the Americans were loons voting for Trump.

R T Davies 😂😂😂

[Rjk]

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I'm not going to give my entire political viewpoint over the internet but there are both things that a local and national level that alter my view

Tories at a national level have heavily supported the sector I work in as well as a pro-Brexit agenda which a lot of Wales voted for.

Welsh Labour are doing some things that I agree with such as taking in to public ownership the trains and Cardiff airport and then shoot themselves in the foot with the M4 relief road and various other infrastructure projects that have failed due to environmental concerns (which I'll admit is really not a concern of mine)

My bigger gripe is more to do with Labour at a national level.

I'll admit - I probably do want a 'Tory Party-Lite' without all the rubbish the Tory party comes with

I honestly don't believe that the Welsh Tories would have pushed the M4 relief road through either. the project made no sense financially. unless the firm's that were doing it were large Tory donors I can't see them having the appetite for it.

[surge]

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I honestly don't believe that the Welsh Tories would have pushed the M4 relief road through either. the project made no sense financially. unless the firm's that were doing it were large Tory donors I can't see them having the appetite for it.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Tories do well (labour fatigue, Tory MP's in North Wales from last Westminster elections but actually vote increase larger in the south) but, imo, I can't see what they have done to deserve it.

Regarding M4 relief road, if it does get made you almost instantly have to thing about a second relief road and that's only going to cause greater damage to the environment. Meanwhile, floods in Wales get worse.

Regarding Covid, ignoring the fire-breal idea, delay of lockdown in England, schools going back for one day all contributed to more sustained level of grief under a Tory government this winter.

In the big event of the year (covid) and big event of the next 10-15 years (climate change) Tories haven't stood up well. All while making cuts to any project in Wales at Westminster level or ignoring Wales completely.

[Divine Wright]

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What are the benefits in voting Tories or abolishing ?

It will surely make anyone living in Wales worse off, won't it ?

I'm not a labour person, but Drakeford has done fine.

Plaid will endeavour to make the country that you live in more prosperous.....regardless of whether you are a "unionist" or a left-wing, post-colonial "nationalist". I vote Plaid but consider myself pro-independence and pro-immigration as opposed to a nationalist. I would also consider it imperative for our country to maintain close ties with England. But it is also essential for us to manage our on affairs in order for us to progress. I'm certain of this. We will be an after-thought within the union....and that is just a matter of numbers, nothing more. We only represent about 4% of the votership and GDP when lumped in with the rest of the countries in the UK. It's clear that we have little say and as such, can always be overlooked.