Re: Trump guilty on all charges
There you go - straight into the Left v Right tribal bullshit without giving though to the process. I see that took a split second autopilot decision.
So you think that openly hating Trump, being heavily pro-Biden, from a pro-Biden famipy heavily campaigning for him, trussed up my a Democrat AG and in a Trump hating state looks objective, fair, and balanced? And no conflict of interest? That is a novel way of assessing things. There is nothing so blind as a man that cannot see. Or read, in Biden’s case.
The Democrats could have been clever and respected due process by choosing a state that was balanced between Republican v Democrat, had an AG that was independent (or at least looked independent), could have chosen a politically independent judge too. At least the optics would have carried a veneer of objectivity, without a clear conflict of interest. It could also have been done far earlier in the electoral cycle.
The way this was carried out confirmed my belief that the US is a mafia state - where Republicans and Democrats abuse the legal system to convict opponents. Had it been a Democrat such as Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton or Obama in the dock, I would have wanted the same approach - free of politics. But then again that is me. I like fairness. I like objectivity. I like a clean legal system and a fair fight. I like the elimination of conflicts of interest.
But for some that is clearly not the case. Tribal politics comes first, and principles, sensible economics and a fair legal system come after. Primitive tribalism reigns supreme in your head, and that of others.I think that what this thread shows is that such an unprincipled bent appears to also apply to quite a few on the Left (although this applies to Fascists). I note several Lefties on here that never change their Labour vote, are the same ones who are completely have their eyes closed and fingers in their ears.
When you look at Socialist countries and Mafia countries, the supporters always think it is fair to pin their opponents regardless of fairness or respect for law. In China Xinping eliminates his enemies this way. Communist Cuba the same. Latin American countries such as Ecuador, Bolivia and Argentina have this dark variant of politics. It is the single argument that Hayek got correct - that behind all variants of Socialism is the desire for authoritarian control. It starts off as soft Left, and when you cannot force it upon people, the gang mentality (unions) appear, ostraciation of people with opposing views, imprisonment of opponents and corruption of the legal system. The soft Left have to go Hard Left and the Hard Left l, left unchecked move closer and closer to Communism, unless it is weeded out.
In this case the people that support the way this legal process has ocurred disregard democracy, liberty, innocence until proven guilty, and the right to a fair trial. As long as your political opponent gets taken down by whatever means, it is OK to bend the process and apply corruption. That says more about the people who support it than the people triggering the process itself.
Idiots on the Left. Idiots on the Right. Tribalist politics by the swivel-eyed, seeing enemies and opponents everywhere as if it were a field of war or sport, rather than a serious subject and debate to run countries. Baboons. Laughable.
Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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So you think that openly hating Trump, being heavily pro-Biden, from a pro-Biden famipy heavily campaigning for him, trussed up my a Democrat AG and in a Trump hating state looks objective, fair, and balanced? And no conflict of interest? That is a novel way of assessing things. There is nothing so blind as a man that cannot see. Or read, in Biden’s case.
The Democrats could have been clever and respected due process by choosing a state that was balanced between Republican v Democrat, had an AG that was independent (or at least looked independent), could have chosen a politically independent judge too. At least the optics would have carried a veneer of objectivity, without a clear conflict of interest. It could also have been done far earlier in the electoral cycle.
The way this was carried out confirmed my belief that the US is a mafia state - where Republicans and Democrats abuse the legal system to convict opponents. Had it been a Democrat such as Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton or Obama in the dock, I would have wanted the same approach - free of politics. But then again that is me. I like fairness. I like objectivity. I like a clean legal system and a fair fight. I like the elimination of conflicts of interest.
But for some that is clearly not the case. Tribal politics comes first, and principles, sensible economics and a fair legal system come after. Primitive tribalism reigns supreme in your head, and that of others.I think that what this thread shows is that such an unprincipled bent appears to also apply to quite a few on the Left (although this applies to Fascists). I note several Lefties on here that never change their Labour vote, are the same ones who are completely have their eyes closed and fingers in their ears.
When you look at Socialist countries and Mafia countries, the supporters always think it is fair to pin their opponents regardless of fairness or respect for law. In China Xinping eliminates his enemies this way. Communist Cuba the same. Latin American countries such as Ecuador, Bolivia and Argentina have this dark variant of politics. It is the single argument that Hayek got correct - that behind all variants of Socialism is the desire for authoritarian control. It starts off as soft Left, and when you cannot force it upon people, the gang mentality (unions) appear, ostraciation of people with opposing views, imprisonment of opponents and corruption of the legal system. The soft Left have to go Hard Left and the Hard Left l, left unchecked move closer and closer to Communism, unless it is weeded out.
In this case the people that support the way this legal process has ocurred disregard democracy, liberty, innocence until proven guilty, and the right to a fair trial. As long as your political opponent gets taken down by whatever means, it is OK to bend the process and apply corruption. That says more about the people who support it than the people triggering the process itself.
Idiots on the Left. Idiots on the Right. Tribalist politics by the swivel-eyed, seeing enemies and opponents everywhere as if it were a field of war or sport, rather than a serious subject and debate to run countries. Baboons. Laughable.

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