£3,000 in tax rises if

[the other bob wilson]

The Tory’s win, according to that well known Labour rag, the Spectator.

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1798441507982094427?s=61&t=SxfZvnpbQ7_AggLZAJxrmQ

However, a former top civil servant says Labour are hardly whiter than white when it comes to the sort of lie we saw from Sunak on Tuesday night.

Some good points made in this edition of the News Agents.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/on-sunaks-maths-tories-will-lift-taxes-by-3000-per-household/

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

The Tory’s win, according to that well known Labour rag, the Spectator.

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1798441507982094427?s=61&t=SxfZvnpbQ7_AggLZAJxrmQ

However, a former top civil servant says Labour are hardly whiter than white when it comes to the sort of lie we saw from Sunak on Tuesday night.

Some good points made in this edition of the News Agents.

If Fraser Nelson is getting stuck into Sunak , it's curtains

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...per-household/

Well they are gone, so it's irrelevant, Labour will tax more it's what they do, I won't let them whack most into the pension before they close the doors, people should be spotting the dangers and planning ahead.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

Well they are gone, so it's irrelevant, Labour will tax more it's what they do, I won't let them whack most into the pension before they close the doors, people should be spotting the dangers and planning ahead.

The Spectator says different it seems.

[pipster]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

The Spectator says different it seems.

Had a quick read and the take home message - both parties will have to increase taxes.

The bigger your spending plans - the bigger the need to tax / borrow. Looking at the borrowing we have already had to do through Covid and subsequent slump - we are just heaping more debt on to the existing debt.

I did like the Spectator comment from the author of that article when they said "PS I’ve had a couple of calls on how we did the maths, which I’m afraid was fag-packet stuff. "

Back to work now.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

Well they are gone, so it's irrelevant, Labour will tax more it's what they do, I won't let them whack most into the pension before they close the doors, people should be spotting the dangers and planning ahead.

Not according to the tory magazine The Spectator

Are they lying too ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

Had a quick read and the take home message - both parties will have to increase taxes.

The bigger your spending plans - the bigger the need to tax / borrow. Looking at the borrowing we have already had to do through Covid and subsequent slump - we are just heaping more debt on to the existing debt.

I did like the Spectator comment from the author of that article when they said "PS I’ve had a couple of calls on how we did the maths, which I’m afraid was fag-packet stuff. "

Back to work now.

Just like all of the Tory SPADS then.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

Had a quick read and the take home message - both parties will have to increase taxes.

The bigger your spending plans - the bigger the need to tax / borrow. Looking at the borrowing we have already had to do through Covid and subsequent slump - we are just heaping more debt on to the existing debt.

I did like the Spectator comment from the author of that article when they said "PS I’ve had a couple of calls on how we did the maths, which I’m afraid was fag-packet stuff. "

Back to work now.

Sadly for you Tories the take home message is sunak and his mob have been found out

The point of sunak bringing up taxation was , as you know , to try and paint the Tories as the good boys and Labour as the party of high taxation

He's not only lied using figures he and his team were told not to use , he's led to fellow Tories turning on him like Mr Nelson in his conservative supporting magazine

It's an absolute car crash and you can try and say well all parties will have to raise taxes is trying to dodge the lies

Which shows up your bias

Thankfully you ain't kidding anyone

[Dave Blue]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

The £2000 (over 4 years) was a lie. My increased mortgage thanks to Liz Truss is equivalent to 4x this on its own without energy and other bills/costs rising.

[JamesWales]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

The £2000 (over 4 years) was a lie. My increased mortgage thanks to Liz Truss is equivalent to 4x this on its own without energy and other bills/costs rising.

Yes but Face for you to talk about lying and then saying the mortgage rise was down to Liz Truss. That's not true is it. They are rising everywhere. They were at historic lows. The budget absolutely didn't help, but anyone saying she caused the rise in mortgages from circa 2002 to circa 2003..well that's a lie

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

Yes but Face for you to talk about lying and then saying the mortgage rise was down to Liz Truss. That's not true is it. They are rising everywhere. They were at historic lows. The budget absolutely didn't help, but anyone saying she caused the rise in mortgages from circa 2002 to circa 2003..well that's a lie

You are absolutely desperate now

[the other bob wilson]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

You are absolutely desperate now

He's right though, Liz Truss was probably in the young socialists around 02/03..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

He's right though, Liz Truss was probably in the young socialists around 02/03..

Is she still an mp ?

I hope she gets battered

[JamesWales]

Re: £3,000 in tax rises if…………

You are absolutely desperate now

No, it is a lie. Just like "crashing the economy" is a hyperbolic lie etc.

You clearly don't follow the news from any country outside of the UK? Didn't have you down as a little Englander Sludge.

The idea mortgage rates weren't rising or wouldn't rise without Liz Truss's budget is a lie.

You know it is as well.