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  • #31
    Re: Latest Opinion Polls

    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
    What have Reform done to help out the Tories?
    Exposed themselves as having a lot more racists in their ranks than we already knew

    If floating right wing Tories who are not happy with people questioning their motives for voting reform ......so Trevor.....are you a racist like those reform canvassers and candidates on the TV or not ? .......refuse to vote reform and go back to the Tories or abstain and stay at home ......it could save quite a few seats for rishi

    I think sunak spoke well about the offensive comments about him and the effect it has on his daughters , fair play to him

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    • #32
      Re: Latest Opinion Polls

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Exposed themselves as having a lot more racists in their ranks than we already knew

      If floating right wing Tories who are not happy with people questioning their motives for voting reform ......so Trevor.....are you a racist like those reform canvassers and candidates on the TV or not ? .......refuse to vote reform and go back to the Tories or abstain and stay at home ......it could save quite a few seats for rishi

      I think sunak spoke well about the offensive comments about him and the effect it has on his daughters , fair play to him
      I really dont think that will make any difference.

      If Labour do win this election. The new look Conservatives could be a frightening lot when Reform move in.

      Farage is a disgrace. But there are plenty who fall for this anti establishment bullshit. He's a complete one trick pony.

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      • #33
        Re: Latest Opinion Polls

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        I really dont think that will make any difference.

        If Labour do win this election. The new look Conservatives could be a frightening lot when Reform move in.

        Farage is a disgrace. But there are plenty who fall for this anti establishment bullshit. He's a complete one trick pony.
        If reforms racist expose doesn't make any difference then the Tories are in even deeper trouble

        I think Sunak is hoping the idiots will bring back enough voters to him to at least get a more respectable number of seats

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        • #34
          Re: Latest Opinion Polls

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          If reforms racist expose doesn't make any difference then the Tories are in even deeper trouble

          I think Sunak is hoping the idiots will bring back enough voters to him to at least get a more respectable number of seats
          I think he will get a respectable number of seats anyway. A significant amount of Tories are embarrassed to be Tories and whatever the polls say they will be far closer on the day.

          I expect Labour to win but it will be closer than the polls suggest.

          If the Tories get in again it's time to give up.

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          • #35
            Re: Latest Opinion Polls

            Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
            Just as well it’s probably the 150th most concerning issue for the public.
            You're absolutely right. But it's probably the 3rd or 4th most important issue for much of the media and the Twiteratti. Try suggesting it might not be a good idea for a fat bearded man to be able to use M&S women's changing rooms and wait for cancel culture to kick in. Absolutely no hint of compromise from the trans lobby: "some people are trans, get over it". End of discussion.

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            • #36
              Re: Latest Opinion Polls

              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
              I can't actually believe people are going to vote for Starmer en masse, the fallout is going to be epic!
              What's the alternative?

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              • #37
                Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                Originally posted by stevo View Post
                What's the alternative?
                People wont vote and Starmergeddon will be detonated

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                • #38
                  Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                  Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                  I think he will get a respectable number of seats anyway. A significant amount of Tories are embarrassed to be Tories and whatever the polls say they will be far closer on the day.

                  I expect Labour to win but it will be closer than the polls suggest.

                  If the Tories get in again it's time to give up.
                  If the Tories get in again then it will be down to starmers weakness , he's incredibly flat

                  Even sunak looks alive occasionally

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                  • #39
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                    unfortunately while it would be great to see the tories not in the top 2 parties - i fear that this would lead to a lurch to the right to recapture the farage voters, would not be a good thing in the long run

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                    • #40
                      Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                      Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                      https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/...tion_main.html

                      unfortunately while it would be great to see the tories not in the top 2 parties - i fear that this would lead to a lurch to the right to recapture the farage voters, would not be a good thing in the long run
                      That's assuming that centre left governments have a good track record in making things better, which is pretty dubious

                      I think a lot of people are going to be pretty disappointed pretty quickly tbh

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                      • #41
                        Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                        Originally posted by stevo View Post
                        What's the alternative?
                        Just about anybody who's not currently an MP.

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          It's going to be great if the Tories get a hammering

                          Pipster , Whales , Goats ........all on mogadon and marzipan
                          In your dreams benefits boy….i will vote for neither of the twats as usual. It’s just I can see the light, your too far gone.n
                          It’s like deciding which leg to chop off voting for either of the main c*unts

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                          • #43
                            Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                            There's going to be flood warnings with all these Tory boys tears.🤣
                            I just gaze in wonder at these threads.

                            Starmer is exactly what this country thought a politician should be a few years back when they were crying out for somebody from a normal background and who has had a proper job. His story is the embodiment of what 'aspiration' should look like, before it was bastardised into 'pocket as much money as you can as everyone elses expense'. Troubled childhood, worked his ass off to reach the height of his profession and then instead of sitting back and pocketing some lovely free private sector money, throws himself into politics and manages to become leader of his party in a handful of years. All the people who say it has nothing to do with him were the same people who thought Boris would have a 3 term premiership and had written labour into history.

                            Is he too much of a pragmatist and the manifesto lacks ambition, for me yes. Is he pretty poor at thinking on his feet on certain topics, yes. But do I think he's in this for himself? I genuinely don't get that impression. Which makes a change.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                              Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                              I think he will get a respectable number of seats anyway. A significant amount of Tories are embarrassed to be Tories and whatever the polls say they will be far closer on the day.

                              I expect Labour to win but it will be closer than the polls suggest.

                              If the Tories get in again it's time to give up.
                              Might aswell give up anyway, we have the worst Tories ever running wales thinking they can do whatever they want with the meak weak population

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                              • #45
                                Re: Latest Opinion Polls

                                Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                                I think he will get a respectable number of seats anyway. A significant amount of Tories are embarrassed to be Tories and whatever the polls say they will be far closer on the day.

                                I expect Labour to win but it will be closer than the polls suggest.

                                If the Tories get in again it's time to give up.
                                I have this hesitancy too but I am starting to think the game is up. Less than 100 seats is now 1.6 or so on Betfair with a fair bit of money available. Now, odds aren't some kind of crystal ball but it gives a pretty good idea that there is a decent change the Tories completely bomb this election.

                                My seat isn't even a target for labour, has never had anything other than a Tory MP and labour are 1/3 to win here.

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