Starmer Seems More Relaxed

[jon1959]

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It’s social housing we desperately need. Just building private housing isn’t the answer. A mass Social Housing initiative to reverse the sale of Council Housing during the 80s. Nobody’s addressed this. It needs to be massive, UK wide, and legislation brought in that it is illegal to sell social houses. They are built to be recycled.

[Eric Cartman]

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It’s social housing we desperately need. Just building private housing isn’t the answer. A mass Social Housing initiative to reverse the sale of Council Housing during the 80s. Nobody’s addressed this. It needs to be massive, UK wide, and legislation brought in that it is illegal to sell social houses. They are built to be recycled.

It probably is needed but honestly any scheme that addresses the root problem and gets off the ground will be something.

Mass expansion of first homes scheme would be welcome. Buy your home at a large discount, discount passed on when you sell, priority given to people with local ties. We need to get away from houses being an asset and should punitively tax anybody who tries to exploit it, housing needs to be for people not profit.

[Wales-Bales]

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It’s social housing we desperately need. Just building private housing isn’t the answer. A mass Social Housing initiative to reverse the sale of Council Housing during the 80s. Nobody’s addressed this. It needs to be massive, UK wide, and legislation brought in that it is illegal to sell social houses. They are built to be recycled.

That solution is so obvious that nobody would fall for it.

[Alfresco]

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A bit too relaxed for my liking, thinking Biden is compos mentis and releasing jail birds early. What ever next

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It probably is needed but honestly any scheme that addresses the root problem and gets off the ground will be something.

Mass expansion of first homes scheme would be welcome. Buy your home at a large discount, discount passed on when you sell, priority given to people with local ties. We need to get away from houses being an asset and should punitively tax anybody who tries to exploit it, housing needs to be for people not profit.

Mixed tenure with emphasis on social housing

And absolutely ensuring that people pleading housing need and awarded social housing are not able to buy the bloody place a few years later

That makes my blood boil

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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A bit too relaxed for my liking, thinking Biden is compos mentis and releasing jail birds early. What ever next

Well the tory government are the ones who have increased prison sentences and stuffed the jails to breaking point without increasing spaces

We either let low level offenders out under restriction or things get worse and worse

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It’s social housing we desperately need. Just building private housing isn’t the answer. A mass Social Housing initiative to reverse the sale of Council Housing during the 80s. Nobody’s addressed this. It needs to be massive, UK wide, and legislation brought in that it is illegal to sell social houses. They are built to be recycled.

The money isn't there for central government to do this

Higher taxes would enable that but most of the country are fooled by low taxation

The best at present is high levels of private housing with 25 percent social housing agreement

Jon ?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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The money isn't there for central government to do this

Higher taxes would enable that but most of the country are fooled by low taxation

The best at present is high levels of private housing with 25 percent social housing agreement

Jon ?

That’s not good enough. It’s constantly kicking the can down the road. We need 75% Social Housing….and we need to increase taxes.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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That’s not good enough. It’s constantly kicking the can down the road. We need 75% Social Housing….and we need to increase taxes.

I agree with you totally

But the crap thrown at labour from the tory election machine regarding tax rises showed what people think of investment in housing , nhs , social services

[JamesWales]

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I agree with you totally

But the crap thrown at labour from the tory election machine regarding tax rises showed what people think of investment in housing , nhs , social services

Labour spent months and months criticising the "Tory Tax Burden". That's the problem, they criticised everything and it will be very difficult for them to change anything without at least being hypocrites about it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Labour spent months and months criticising the "Tory Tax Burden". That's the problem, they criticised everything and it will be very difficult for them to change anything without at least being hypocrites about it.

Well they have to criticise, they are in opposition

But now in government I would give it a few years then tell it as it is and spend

It might lead to the usual tory moans but with the majority labour have I say go for it

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Labour spent months and months criticising the "Tory Tax Burden". That's the problem, they criticised everything and it will be very difficult for them to change anything without at least being hypocrites about it.

That’s not true. It’ll be easy. The Tories constantly shifted the goal posts for 14 years. They were masters at changing the narrative and did so along with Prime Ministers. They sold the lie in 2010 that there was no money. At least this time if Labour turn round and state that Social Care, the NHS, housing, education and prisons are much worse than they could have possibly imagined then it’ll be true.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Well they have to criticise, they are in opposition

But now in government I would give it a few years then tell it as it is and spend

It might lead to the usual tory moans but with the majority labour have I say go for it

Agreed 👍

[JamesWales]

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Agreed 👍

They don't have to criticise. If they think taxes should be higher to pay for public services they can say that.

Probably would have cost a few votes but perhaps it would have been more honest

This is the problem that I have been quite consistent in saying: I can see many of the things Labour criticised the Tories for being replicated under them.

[pipster]

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Now the boot is on the other foot Paul, you have no answers and the ones you do have don’t hold up

Enjoy the next 5 years you are going to get a leathering, something I suspect you enjoy as DS would elude to