Jesus we love you

[jeepster]

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I always find it fascinating that the most vitriolic anti Christian posters seem the most obsessed in pontificating on something they claim doesn’t exist.

Are we not allowed to?

[truthpaste]

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I would get you a pint and an apology.

No apology needed, we all start from a different perspective and our journey to discovering what's real, reliable and vital is our own.
Keep asking questions until you are satisfied with the answers. Test all things.

[Gofer Blue]

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Robert Jenrick thinks anyone who utters the phrase should be clamped in irons for using terrorist language. Is he embarking on a war against religion now?

Did Jenrick really say that? Can you provide a reference please - I would be interested to read it!

[Gofer Blue]

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For fcuk's sake truthpaste, why do you have to hijack every jesus thread and make it all about you?

I don't think TP needs me to stand up for him but what makes you think his replies on Christian matters makes it all about himself? It seems to me that his replies are all about Jesus.

[Dorcus]

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Did Jenrick really say that? Can you provide a reference please - I would be interested to read it!

I'm not great at posting links I'm afraid but yes he did say it (although in a foreign language) but if you look at any online content the story is still current. You could try the Independent which is neutral in political stance in case anyone thinks it's biased reporting.

[Gofer Blue]

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Are we not allowed to?

Feel free. I enjoy the discussions and the challenges they sometimes present.

[Gofer Blue]

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I'm not great at posting links I'm afraid but yes he did say it (although in a foreign language) but if you look at any online content the story is still current. You could try the Independent which is neutral in political stance in case anyone thinks it's biased reporting.

OK.

[Dorcus]

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I don't think TP needs me to stand up for him but what makes you think his replies on Christian matters makes it all about himself? It seems to me that his replies are all about Jesus.

I think in this case because the thread had nothing to do with the epistemology, ethics, metaphysics or doctrine of any particular religion but was a reference to a purely political belief.

Philosophical debates about Christianity or any other religion are fascinating but this thread had zero connection to any of those. Rather, it was highlighting a dubious political opinion.

[Gofer Blue]

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I'm not great at posting links I'm afraid but yes he did say it (although in a foreign language) but if you look at any online content the story is still current. You could try the Independent which is neutral in political stance in case anyone thinks it's biased reporting.

OK have had a look. As far as I can Jenrick is referring to the expression Allahu Akbar the Arabic phrase used by Muslims to mean "God is great". Don't see Jesus get a mention. I have a Syrian friend who uses that expression I suppose in the same way we Christians would say Jesus loves you. Unfortunately Allahu Akbar also seems to be the favoured expression of extremist Muslims such as suicide bombers but to try to ban the use of the expression is ludicrous surely!

[Dorcus]

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Allah = Jesus, think of the Trinity. Allahu Akhbar is shouted out as a demonstration of faith. Some people mistakenly consider it a call to arms and it is not. It's the equivalent of calling out "Jesus we love you" in Arabic and it's denunciation is an attack on religious freedom. This ironically by the way from a member of the party which claims to passionately espouse freedom of speech.

[Gofer Blue]

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Allah = Jesus, think of the Trinity. Allahu Akhbar is shouted out as a demonstration of faith. Some people mistakenly consider it a call to arms and it is not. It's the equivalent of calling out "Jesus we love you" in Arabic and it's denunciation is an attack on religious freedom. This ironically by the way from a member of the party which claims to passionately espouse freedom of speech.

Somehow I doubt that but I'll ask my Syrian friend and let you know.

[Dorcus]

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Somehow I doubt that but I'll ask my Syrian friend and let you know.

Think of the hypostasis; it most definitely is.

[Dorcus]

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OK have had a look. As far as I can Jenrick is referring to the expression Allahu Akbar the Arabic phrase used by Muslims to mean "God is great". Don't see Jesus get a mention. I have a Syrian friend who uses that expression I suppose in the same way we Christians would say Jesus loves you. Unfortunately Allahu Akbar also seems to be the favoured expression of extremist Muslims such as suicide bombers but to try to ban the use of the expression is ludicrous surely!

Your last point is absolutely correct: it is ludicrous. However, it is also discriminatory and ignorant. Politicians attempting to pontificate on religious expressions of belief are way out of their death and troublesome. Pun intended by the way. 👍

[truthpaste]

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Your last point is absolutely correct: it is ludicrous. However, it is also discriminatory and ignorant. Politicians attempting to pontificate on religious expressions of belief are way out of their death and troublesome. Pun intended by the way. ��

Indeed they are, but this isn't only a problem in political circles, it highlights the fact that our society knows more details about the Harry Potter series than it does the basic elements of the three Abrahamic faiths.

[az city]

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Indeed they are, but this isn't only a problem in political circles, it highlights the fact that our society knows more details about the Harry Potter series than it does the basic elements of the three Abrahamic faiths.

I think "our society" increasingly considers both to be part of the fantasy genre.