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  • #31
    Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

    Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Your view of Benn is “Good entertainment but that’s it”?

    *raises eyebrow*
    Tony Benn made a political career out of being on question Time

    Wrote a few good books , I have some but it was all ideas

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    • #32
      Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

      Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
      I think you'll fond he was.
      The surely you're not stupid enough to argue otherwise is a sly old trick sludge. If the person doesn't argue it means you win the point and if they do you can say they are stupid. But it isn't really a fact is it?
      The prime mover for remain was a tory and a lot of pro leave were labour, as you can see by the areas that voted for out.
      Or are you suggesting that labour voters voted for Brexit because labour voters are stupid and couldn't see the real facts as someone of your intellect can?
      If you are suggesting that then maybe the vote for the tories in the following election was them stupidly thinking that it would corret their stupidity. Maybe!!!!
      So you think that the prime mover to remain was a tory ?

      Cameron ?

      Cameron was all about Cameron

      Ken Clarke was a moderate , left leaning tory who spoke a lot of sense , most of the tory party were anti Europe and had been since Thatcher turned up

      The voters were conned


      It will all come out in the wash and this latest trick , which you have completely failed to comment on , is just the start 👌

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      • #33
        Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        So you think that the prime mover to remain was a tory ?

        Cameron ?

        Cameron was all about Cameron

        Ken Clarke was a moderate , left leaning tory who spoke a lot of sense , most of the tory party were anti Europe and had been since Thatcher turned up

        The voters were conned


        It will all come out in the wash and this latest trick , which you have completely failed to comment on , is just the start ��
        You are clearly far far better informed than everyone else, who was the "prime mover" as you call it?
        As I said you obviously feel you are far more astute than the average labour voter who were apparently stupid enough to vote for Brexit. So what do you suggest, that anyone who disagrees with your opinion should be ineligible to vote?
        The Brexit argument is like Soviet communism, its gone, done with, finished. Live with both things.

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        • #34
          Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
          You are clearly far far better informed than everyone else, who was the "prime mover" as you call it?
          As I said you obviously feel you are far more astute than the average labour voter who were apparently stupid enough to vote for Brexit. So what do you suggest, that anyone who disagrees with your opinion should be ineligible to vote?
          The Brexit argument is like Soviet communism, its gone, done with, finished. Live with both things.
          No one can know for sure, but most number crunchers think that about 30% of people who voted Labour in 2017 also voted Leave in the Brexit Referendum.

          So the average Labour voter was smart enough to vote Remain!

          Is Nigel Farage right that five million Labour supporters voted Leave?

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          • #35
            Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
            You are clearly far far better informed than everyone else, who was the "prime mover" as you call it?
            As I said you obviously feel you are far more astute than the average labour voter who were apparently stupid enough to vote for Brexit. So what do you suggest, that anyone who disagrees with your opinion should be ineligible to vote?
            The Brexit argument is like Soviet communism, its gone, done with, finished. Live with both things.
            Well the post above seems to suggest that 70 percent of labour voters were remain , so it appears I was correct

            But this thread isn't about who is clever

            Its about the tory manifesto promise that areas that lost EU money would have every penny of that money replaced by the conservatives community fund

            And its a complete lie

            And you , as a tory , support that

            You can either answer the question or ........

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            • #36
              Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              Well the post above seems to suggest that 70 percent of labour voters were remain , so it appears I was correct

              But this thread isn't about who is clever

              Its about the tory manifesto promise that areas that lost EU money would have every penny of that money replaced by the conservatives community fund

              And its a complete lie

              And you , as a tory , support that

              You can either answer the question or ........
              There you go stating opinion as fact again because it suits your agenda. You actually just spout bullshit.
              So 70% of labour supporters voted remain and the other 30% were too stupid to vote, is that what you mean?

              And you sneakily change your stance from the Brexit vote to the Tory manifesto. you can't just keep moving the goal posts just to suit your argument when you're losing sludge.
              You know that the labour party as it stands is a spent force and until there is a better alternative to the Conservative party we'll just have to live with it.
              All your shouting and raving about things that are gone done and dusted are just fecking boring.
              So wind your neck i9n and stop bleating like a trapped goat.

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              • #37
                Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                I am fully aware of idiots like Benn . Good entertainment but thats it .
                You're a Blairite, Sludge, Which makes you a Tory in my book.

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                • #38
                  Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                  Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                  There you go stating opinion as fact again because it suits your agenda. You actually just spout bullshit.
                  So 70% of labour supporters voted remain and the other 30% were too stupid to vote, is that what you mean?

                  And you sneakily change your stance from the Brexit vote to the Tory manifesto. you can't just keep moving the goal posts just to suit your argument when you're losing sludge.
                  You know that the labour party as it stands is a spent force and until there is a better alternative to the Conservative party we'll just have to live with it.
                  All your shouting and raving about things that are gone done and dusted are just fecking boring.
                  So wind your neck i9n and stop bleating like a trapped goat.
                  Answer the question posed in the thread regarding the tory scum pulling out of funding they promised to brexit voting deprived areas

                  Even you can try

                  I know the Labour Party is fecked , I want an alternative

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                  • #39
                    Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    You're a Blairite, Sludge, Which makes you a Tory in my book.
                    of course I am , I gave you the list of direct action I took and have taken against racism and the policies of the right . I hated Blair

                    Didn't see you confronting the racist English defence league ?

                    Where were you ?

                    Busy ?

                    Marched against the invasion of Iraq in London, and cardiff

                    Were you there ?

                    Or too busy reading books on socialist philosophy 🤔

                    All mouth

                    See you the next time the far right march in Cardiff

                    On the front line

                    Don't wear your sandals

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                    • #40
                      Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      of course I am , I gave you the list of direct action I took and have taken against racism and the policies of the right . I hated Blair

                      Didn't see you confronting the racist English defence league ?

                      Where were you ?

                      Busy ?

                      Marched against the invasion of Iraq in London, and cardiff

                      Were you there ?

                      Or too busy reading books on socialist philosophy ��

                      All mouth

                      See you the next time the far right march in Cardiff

                      On the front line

                      Don't wear your sandals
                      Sludge, when it comes to fighting racism and Fascism, you've picked the wrong fight my friend. Incidentally, even Tories can hate racism and Fascists.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                        Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                        Sludge, when it comes to fighting racism and Fascism, you've picked the wrong fight my friend. Incidentally, even Tories can hate racism and Fascists.
                        I know all about your old man , I spoke to him

                        I am talking about you

                        I marched against the invasion of Iraq, in London and Cardiff

                        I nearly got flattened after informing the police of Cardiff city fans spitting in the faces of black players warming up at an away game

                        And when the far right English defence league came to Cardiff I was there

                        And you call me a blairite ?

                        Do yourself a favour ff sake

                        Time for bed

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                        • #42
                          Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          of course I am , I gave you the list of direct action I took and have taken against racism and the policies of the right . I hated Blair

                          Didn't see you confronting the racist English defence league ?

                          Where were you ?

                          Busy ?

                          Marched against the invasion of Iraq in London, and cardiff

                          Were you there ?

                          Or too busy reading books on socialist philosophy ��

                          All mouth

                          See you the next time the far right march in Cardiff

                          On the front line

                          Don't wear your sandals
                          sorry for butting in lads but I was there at that March in 2010 when the EDL misfits came to town Sludge and nearly come to blows with the East Midland branch when they come off there buses . don't think they lasted very long did they

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                          • #43
                            Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                            Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                            sorry for butting in lads but I was there at that March in 2010 when the EDL misfits came to town Sludge and nearly come to blows with the East Midland branch when they come off there buses . don't think they lasted very long did they
                            There was about 200 of them, Some City fans attacked them as they got off their coaches, that's when the Police gave them even more protection. They were sent packing.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                              Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                              sorry for butting in lads but I was there at that March in 2010 when the EDL misfits came to town Sludge and nearly come to blows with the East Midland branch when they come off there buses . don't think they lasted very long did they
                              let's just say they were a bit out of their depth

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                              • #45
                                Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                There was about 200 of them, Some City fans attacked them as they got off their coaches, that's when the Police gave them even more protection. They were sent packing.
                                a coach from Bolton became an open top version with no windows

                                They had to go home by train and they were met by a welcoming cultural atache group at Cardiff Central , some large chaps

                                Who wernt interested in exchanging gifts

                                They were very quiet being walked into the back of Cardiff Central

                                Don't think they enjoyed their visit to Cardiff

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