Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

[Tuerto]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

I know all about your old man , I spoke to him

I am talking about you

I marched against the invasion of Iraq, in London and Cardiff

I nearly got flattened after informing the police of Cardiff city fans spitting in the faces of black players warming up at an away game

And when the far right English defence league came to Cardiff I was there

And you call me a blairite ?

Do yourself a favour ff sake

Time for bed

I was on both demos, the anti invasion of Iraq, with my mother, father and missus, and the Edl one in Cardiff with my mother as my dad was on his way out at that point. I've been on countless anti fascist demos, attended meetings, confronted fascist wankers, removed from my house twice as a child and picked up by the police from school because the NF were threatening to kidnap me and my sister or fire bomb our house. I've seen my mother spat at while I was at her side as a child and she was told that she wasn't even worth raping. All that by nazi scum.

I've done my share and will continue to do so. You know **** all sludge.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

I was on both demos, the anti invasion of Iraq, with my mother, father and missus, and the Edl one in Cardiff with my mother as my dad was on his way out at that point. I've been on countless anti fascist demos, attended meetings, confronted fascist wankers, removed from my house twice as a child and picked up by the police from school because the NF were threatening to kidnap me and my sister or fire bomb our house. I've seen my mother spat at while I was at her side as a child and she was told that she wasn't even worth raping. All that by nazi scum.

I've done my share and will continue to do so. You know **** all sludge.

well if you had read what I posted about my involvement in fighting fascism and racism you would have known was a pile of horse shit you were speaking in labelling me a supporter of Blair

You were just being an arse

So do one or see you at the next demo

[Tuerto]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

well if you had read what I posted about my involvement in fighting fascism and racism you would have known was a pile of horse shit you were speaking in labelling me a supporter of Blair

You were just being an arse

So do one or see you at the next demo

Sludge, Centrist is right wing, it's a natural leaning towards the right, always has been, it can't be anything else, same as most independents. You may be anti war, but you want a right wing labour party, or one that appeases the right. That's your business i suppose. You talk of left wing politics as some kind of fantasy, a non reality, the stuff of the immature, the youthful dreamer. Sorry mate, you've jumped into bed with the right wing media and the politicians (Like Nandy and Co) who are Tory to the core. They try and dress up their right wing views by trying to sound fair and rational about their real intentions.

[life on mars]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

Centre is centre , left it left , right is right , being a centralist in my view doesn't make you left wing or right wing ,love the fact everyone loves a mainly centrist social democratic Europe , are they right wing as well ?

[jon1959]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

Centre is centre , left it left , right is right , being a centralist in my view doesn't make you left wing or right wing ,love the fact everyone loves a mainly centrist social democratic Europe , are they right wing as well ?

Words are words, and labels are labels, and gibberish is the new analysis.

So you 'love the fact everyone loves a mainly centrist social democratic Europe'? Are you basing this insight on the make up of the Commission, the Parliament or the governments/parliaments of the member states?

I'm sure that Europe (the EU) is not social democratic in any of those cases. Of the 703 MEPs in the Parliament, only 145 are social democrats. Or are you making the case for 'centrist' parties (abandoning its use in this thread in relation to right wing Labourism?) to include Christian Democrats, some Liberals and other assorted conservatives? If so they barely make up half the Parliament, with all of them losing votes over recent times to socialists, left populists, Greens, right populists/nationalists and born again Nazis.

[jon1959]

Re: Get Brexit Done , Get Done By Brexit

Centre is centre , left it left , right is right , being a centralist in my view doesn't make you left wing or right wing ,love the fact everyone loves a mainly centrist social democratic Europe , are they right wing as well ?

To call someone centrist in a Labour Party context (as used by the media and members) is to identify them with the Labour right.