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    Internet censorship seems to be a hot topic, so are you for it or against it?

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    Binary choice - for or against? I am somewhere in between.

    I am in favour of some restrictions on unfettered 'free speech'. The obvious ones of incitement to violence or abuse.... most of which are already covered (in the UK) by existing laws. I am also in favour of flagging some types of dangerous disinformation - like pushing poisons as medical cures or promoting suicide clubs - if not banning it outright. In some cases there should be a ban.

    'No platform' on political grounds has to be a last resort and only used in the most extreme cases.

    The problems, of course are who decides what is incitement, what is disinformation, and what the impact is likely to be (a judgement).

    I want to protect the right to satire. I want to protect the rights of people to make contrary political arguments and interpretations of events. I don't want rich individuals or conservative state organs to decide these thinks - not 'The Lord Chancellor's Office' of old and certainly not Elon Musk.

    The internet should not be in the hands of either libertarians or control freaks.

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    • #3
      Re: Free Speech

      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
      Binary choice - for or against? I am somewhere in between.

      I am in favour of some restrictions on unfettered 'free speech'. The obvious ones of incitement to violence or abuse.... most of which are already covered (in the UK) by existing laws. I am also in favour of flagging some types of dangerous disinformation - like pushing poisons as medical cures or promoting suicide clubs - if not banning it outright. In some cases there should be a ban.

      'No platform' on political grounds has to be a last resort and only used in the most extreme cases.

      The problems, of course are who decides what is incitement, what is disinformation, and what the impact is likely to be (a judgement).

      I want to protect the right to satire. I want to protect the rights of people to make contrary political arguments and interpretations of events. I don't want rich individuals or conservative state organs to decide these thinks - not 'The Lord Chancellor's Office' of old and certainly not Elon Musk.

      The internet should not be in the hands of either libertarians or control freaks.
      That's a very comprehensive and reasonable view IMO. I see the Australian government want to exempt themselves from the same laws that they want their citizens to obey. It will be interesting to see how things develop, as we are close experiencing an unprecedented divergence between various western allies.

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      • #4
        Re: Free Speech

        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
        Binary choice - for or against? I am somewhere in between.

        I am in favour of some restrictions on unfettered 'free speech'. The obvious ones of incitement to violence or abuse.... most of which are already covered (in the UK) by existing laws. I am also in favour of flagging some types of dangerous disinformation - like pushing poisons as medical cures or promoting suicide clubs - if not banning it outright. In some cases there should be a ban.

        'No platform' on political grounds has to be a last resort and only used in the most extreme cases.

        The problems, of course are who decides what is incitement, what is disinformation, and what the impact is likely to be (a judgement).

        I want to protect the right to satire. I want to protect the rights of people to make contrary political arguments and interpretations of events. I don't want rich individuals or conservative state organs to decide these thinks - not 'The Lord Chancellor's Office' of old and certainly not Elon Musk.

        The internet should not be in the hands of either libertarians or control freaks.
        100%

        Thread over! Haha

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        • #5
          Re: Free Speech

          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
          100%

          Thread over! Haha
          I agree, thread over. No one could improve upon Jon's post IMO

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          • #6
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            Thank the lord that Elon bought twitter and that Rumble exists.

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            • #7
              Re: Free Speech

              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
              I agree, thread over. No one could improve upon Jon's post IMO
              Heathblue immediately and spectacularly proving you right there

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