Justin Welby

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

Who?Oh i know Santa

You certainly know someone who is an anagram of santa and he's pulling your strings.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Justin Welby

I'll return to your list in 2025 as the next two weeks are way too busy for me, but MRI was invented by a 6-day creationist who you would consider to be uneducated and disconnected from your elevated reality, and the ultimate author of the Bible would needed to have knowledge of the impact of nuclear weapons and genetic mutations (to name just two examples) to have written certain sections of Scripture. So enjoy your Christmas in your Christ free bubble, and God willing I will address your other nonsence in the new year.

You have, perhaps deliberately, missed my point entirely.

The word 'science' is related to the word 'knowledge' and things are there to be discovered and exploited scientifically (and for both good and bad) whatever one's belief system or absence thereof. The natural world exists regardless who discovers aspects of it.

The fact remains that your tome was written by people who had little understanding of the scientific world and followers believed in stories passed down to them as they would have had little understanding of the true causes of events or whether such things happened at all.

Do you personally believe in the case of talking donkey or are you going to swerve the question? I confess in advance that a positive answer does indicate for me an enormous gullibility that makes it consistent with swallowing your chosen tome whole.

[jeepster]

Re: Justin Welby

You certainly know someone who is an anagram of santa and he's pulling your strings.

What about the anagram of god and he has you on a leash.

[stevo]

Re: Justin Welby

John Lydon summed it up nicely in 1978

Religion

Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd
This is religion
There's a liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
Do you pray to the Holy Ghost when you suck your host
Do you read who's dead in the Irish Post
Do you give away the cash you can't afford
On bended knees and pray to lord
Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion
A liar on the altar
Sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they've done
This is your religion
The apostles were eleven
Now there's a sod in Heaven
This is religion
Liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
A liar on the altar
A sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
Your religion
And it's all falling to bits gloriously
This is religion

[goats]

Re: Justin Welby

John Lydon summed it up nicely in 1978

Religion

Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd
This is religion
There's a liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
Do you pray to the Holy Ghost when you suck your host
Do you read who's dead in the Irish Post
Do you give away the cash you can't afford
On bended knees and pray to lord
Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion
A liar on the altar
Sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they've done
This is your religion
The apostles were eleven
Now there's a sod in Heaven
This is religion
Liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
A liar on the altar
A sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
Your religion
And it's all falling to bits gloriously
This is religion

How has he survived so long after writing that and singing it with glee so many times? Jeez all Lennon said was a one liner and he got it big time

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

You have, perhaps deliberately, missed my point entirely.

The word 'science' is related to the word 'knowledge' and things are there to be discovered and exploited scientifically (and for both good and bad) whatever one's belief system or absence thereof. The natural world exists regardless who discovers aspects of it.

The fact remains that your tome was written by people who had little understanding of the scientific world and followers believed in stories passed down to them as they would have had little understanding of the true causes of events or whether such things happened at all.

Do you personally believe in the case of talking donkey or are you going to swerve the question? I confess in advance that a positive answer does indicate for me an enormous gullibility that makes it consistent with swallowing your chosen tome whole.

Science used to always mean confirmed and accurate knowledge; it no longer strictly means that, with people like you buying into the added category at will.

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

John Lydon summed it up nicely in 1978

Religion

Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd
This is religion
There's a liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
Do you pray to the Holy Ghost when you suck your host
Do you read who's dead in the Irish Post
Do you give away the cash you can't afford
On bended knees and pray to lord
Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion
A liar on the altar
Sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they've done
This is your religion
The apostles were eleven
Now there's a sod in Heaven
This is religion
Liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
This is religion
A liar on the altar
A sermon never falter
This is religion
This is religion
Your religion
And it's all falling to bits gloriously
This is religion

Yes, that is mainly religion, but fakes never mean the genuine article is fake too.

[jeepster]

Re: Justin Welby

Yes, that is mainly religion, but fakes never mean the genuine article is fake too.

What kind of answer is that?

[goats]

Re: Justin Welby

What kind of answer is that?

Fakery

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

What kind of answer is that?

John Lydon is taking a swipe at man made religion, nothing more.
It's as sound as man made evolution.

[jeepster]

Re: Justin Welby

John Lydon is taking a swipe at man made religion, nothing more.
It's as sound as man made evolution.

So your book of fairy stories is not man made?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Justin Welby

So your book of fairy stories is not man made?

Evolution v The Garden of Eden and the talking snake.

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

Evolution v The Garden of Eden and the talking snake.

He's still whispering, why do you think you accept evolution as a proven fact?

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

This religious malarkey is getting far more confusing than I once thought, all these priests, vicars, archbishops etc don’t do the the good lords work? Is it just tpaste on his own then? Did he shoot lennon in a previous life?

In the country there are a minority who do a remarkable job for the Lord rather than themselves.

In short, God delivered His Word (the Bible) to the Jews, they had the responsibility of keeping and teaching what God has said to mankind. When Jesus turned up He said to His fellow Jews (the teachers of that era) - "So you are teaching that it is not important to do what God said. You think it is more important to follow those traditions you have" (Matthew 15:6).

Many church leaders today are doing what those leaders did in Jesus's Day (2000 years ago), they are just teaching Church traditions instead of the Gospel of Christ. This means that people end up religious, disconnected and with no real message of hope to share with their contacts, friends and family.

When I stand before God. I may not have gathered as many facebook friends as some, but I will hopefullly have passed on the Gospel of Christ which is so needed in a world filled with darkness, death, disasters and despair. Nothing else can provide a permanent answer to all of these conditions. The Carol "O Holy Night" picks up this theme:-

O HOLY NIGHT

O holy night!
The stars are brightly shining
It is the night of the dear Savior’s birth!
Long lay the world in sin and error pining
Till he appear’d and the soul felt its worth.
A thrill of hope the weary soul rejoices
For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn!

Fall on your knees
Oh hear the angel voices
Oh night divine
Oh night when Christ was born
Oh night divine
Oh night divine

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Justin Welby

He's still whispering, why do you think you accept evolution as a proven fact?

It's evident to anyone with an open mind that there is more evidence to support evolution (and I have never stated it as fact, by the way) than a talking snake, a virgin birth, a talking donkey, people being turned to salt, people rising from the dead, lepers being instantly healed, people living until they are 800 years old, water miraculously being turned into wine and the other fairy stories that The Bible lifted greatly from other religions.

Your side of the argument is truly laughable, as a Biblical donkey might say.