Justin Welby

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Justin Welby

I've just seen that TP has started a thread an evolution - fair enough I suppose as this is supposedly a thread about Welsby! If you (TBG) intend to reply to my reply, maybe switch to the latest thread?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Justin Welby

I've just seen that TP has started a thread an evolution - fair enough I suppose as this is supposedly a thread about Welsby! If you (TBG) intend to reply to my reply, maybe switch to the latest thread?

I'lll leave it here re: Strobel, Gofer. I found Strobel's way of thinking regarding morality as very perverse and you stated that you apprciated why I effectively made the original comments on that score.

And I'll knock it on the head regarding your comment about complex life being unable to develop from primitive beginnings too. That viewpoint doesn't actually have any logical basis and bemusing when you believe in talking animals etc.

I'll sign off here.

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

I'lll leave it here re: Strobel, Gofer. I found Strobel's way of thinking regarding morality as very perverse and you stated that you apprciated why I effectively made the original comments on that score.

And I'll knock it on the head regarding your comment about complex life being unable to develop from primitive beginnings too. That viewpoint doesn't actually have any logical basis and bemusing when you believe in talking animals etc.
I'll sign off here.

On this issue I would also run for the hills in your position.

This cannot be solved > "complex life being unable to develop from primitive beginnings".........hence 'evilution' is exposed for what it is, one of the biggest global lies of recent history.

[jon1959]

Re: Justin Welby

On this issue I would also run for the hills in your position.

This cannot be solved > "complex life being unable to develop from primitive beginnings".........hence 'evilution' is exposed for what it is, one of the biggest global lies of recent history.

Tetchy today! Trouble in the cult?

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

Tetchy today! Trouble in the cult?

Loads of trouble in the evolution cult, correct.
Even Jesus said about liars - "You brood of vipers!" (Matthew 12:34) when highlighting deceit.

So yes I hate deception with a passion.

[jon1959]

Re: Justin Welby

Loads of trouble in the evolution cult, correct.
Even Jesus said about liars - "You brood of vipers!" (Matthew 12:34) when highlighting deceit.

So yes I hate deception with a passion.

Clearly not.

[goats]

Re: Justin Welby

Tetchy today! Trouble in the cult?

Rough day on Queen street….

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

Rough day on Queen street….

I'm not the yelling type, more the discussion sort; and you'd be very surprised how many people walk up and want to have a serious chat.

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Justin Welby

I'lll leave it here re: Strobel, Gofer. I found Strobel's way of thinking regarding morality as very perverse and you stated that you apprciated why I effectively made the original comments on that score.

And I'll knock it on the head regarding your comment about complex life being unable to develop from primitive beginnings too. That viewpoint doesn't actually have any logical basis and bemusing when you believe in talking animals etc.

I'll sign off here.

OK, you want to duck out at this point, fair enough. Please note for the record though I didn't say that! Read again what I wrote. I said I believe that it is impossible for what we tend to think of as a "simple" single-celled organism such as a bacterium (a prokaryote) to arise from a soup of chemicals such as amino acids and mineerals, or even more so a eukaryote, such as a “simple” single-celled algae!
These are very complicated biological machines with umpteen processes occuring simultaneously - check out kinesins and tell me these arose by chance. It takes more faith to believe that than to believe in a creator.

[goats]

Re: Justin Welby

I'm not the yelling type, more the discussion sort; and you'd be very surprised how many people walk up and want to have a serious chat.

It’s good that people will approach the unhinged and deluded in town to check they are ok….

[goats]

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OK, you want to duck out at this point, fair enough. Please note for the record though I didn't say that! Read again what I wrote. I said I believe that it is impossible for what we tend to think of as a "simple" single-celled organism such as a bacterium (a prokaryote) to arise from a soup of chemicals such as amino acids and mineerals, or even more so a eukaryote, such as a “simple” single-celled algae!
These are very complicated biological machines with umpteen processes occuring simultaneously - check out kinesins and tell me these arose by chance. It takes more faith to believe that than to believe in a creator.

I always did wonder where Adam and Eve came from? God just dropped them off one day when passing wasn’t it?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Justin Welby

OK, you want to duck out at this point, fair enough. Please note for the record though I didn't say that! Read again what I wrote. I said I believe that it is impossible for what we tend to think of as a "simple" single-celled organism such as a bacterium (a prokaryote) to arise from a soup of chemicals such as amino acids and mineerals, or even more so a eukaryote, such as a “simple” single-celled algae!
These are very complicated biological machines with umpteen processes occuring simultaneously - check out kinesins and tell me these arose by chance. It takes more faith to believe that than to believe in a creator.

Apologies if I misunderstood or misrepresented your point but I'll leave it there anyway.

[truthpaste]

Re: Justin Welby

I always did wonder where Adam and Eve came from? God just dropped them off one day when passing wasn’t it?

This may get your goat - "Scientists reveal all the evidence that Adam & Eve really did exist"

They move a little closer as time goes by

[jon1959]

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This may get your goat - "Scientists reveal all the evidence that Adam & Eve really did exist"

They move a little closer as time goes by

Interesting piece. You should read it!

It rubbishes the idea that humanity began with two people: Adam and Eve.

It makes clear that modern humans' first ancestors were part of a wider evolved population pool of homo sapiens which is quite different from tracing a survivor lineage back to a single woman.

It plays around with 'spot the Eden' but makes clear this is not 'the cradle of humanity' but is the place where Neolithic farming first began - which fits with most other scholarship in paleoanthropology for well over 50 years. The 'birthplace of civilisation' is not the birthplace of humanity!

It also warns people with a literal belief in all the words of the Bible, that this story of human origin (genetic and cultural) is mainly incompatible with Biblical fundamentalism:

"However, making the Bible fit with modern science requires throwing out a lot of the traditional story.

"That could mean saying goodbye to the notion that God created Adam and Eve, or even questioning whether our biblical ancestors were Homo Sapiens."

Not enough there on Neanderthals or Homo Erectus, though. They really drive a cart and horses through the creation myths!

[stevo]

Re: Justin Welby

Wrong thread. There's a separate one for evolution.